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129727607 over 2 years ago

When is it supposed to reopen? And will you be following up to "reopen" roads and ensure it isn't forgotten about?

130502392 over 2 years ago

All segments removed have long been overbuilt by roadways (completely free of railway crossings), buildings (no railways going through them) or other infrastructure with no railroad ties, signals or other indications that fall in line with OSM's wiki definition for an abandoned railway.

129617751 over 2 years ago

You can be more specific about what you mean.

If I recall correctly, there was nothing here. If you prefer, I can just add nothing... You're always more than welcome to add further details and refine the data - that is the whole point of OSM.

129804226 over 2 years ago

Only segments that have been obviously overbuilt a long time ago (by parking lots, roadways, buildings, etc.) were removed where there are no remaining sleepers, rails or signals that would meet the definition of "abandoned" railways.

Areas with ground cover (such as trees or bushes) were left intact and untouched since it can't be said with 100% certainty that they do not exist (anymore?).

129622289 over 2 years ago

All segments removed were checked with aerial imagery and confirmed that there are no sleepers, rails or signals remaining to meet the definition of "abandoned". They do not exist (anymore?) and have been largely been overbuilt and replaced by buildings, roadways, parking lots and farmland where there are no remnants from the railway.

126834994 over 2 years ago

Thanks for the thorough explanation. It isn't a huge pipe, I agree. Was just curious where you got the info and what source since there wasn't any provided.

Very likely the pipes were left untouched underground unless they were building basements, which I don't think those houses have, but I digress. Removing underground pipelines would be prohibitively expensive.

Thanks for clarifying the source. Keep up the good work.

129167249 over 2 years ago

I want to apologize. In looking at this more in depth with another mapped, it appears the segment in question was added a long time ago, so I shouldn't have jumped on it, but it appears that it should be cleaned up regardless, since it doesn't appear to exist anymore.

The spurs you added I can confirm exist and they look well mapped.

Before I go ahead and clean up the railways to match what is currently there now, I wanted to get your concurrence that some segments definitely don't exist anymore.

129167249 over 2 years ago

Is there a reason for adding "abandoned" railways that clearly don't exist everywhere where you added it? There is definitely no railway going through the buildings in Pokeville and across most of those highways (I-81 and NY-41).

The wiki states:
"A tag to map former railways, where the rails have been removed but the route is still visible with ties/sleepers, signals or other railroad right of way signs or infrastructure."

Source:
osm.wiki/Tag:railway%3Dabandoned

There are definitely no ties/sleepers or signals where there are buildings, parking lots and roads.

I'm curious as to why you are continuing to map things that have no ground-truth and can not be verified with even an extensive ground survey (such as across the parking lots and buildings) which have long replaced what *may* have been a railway at some point, but definitely not anymore.

If it is for "historical" reasons, it would probably be best to add it to OpenHistoricalMaps, rather than OpenStreetMaps where it supposed to be what exists "today". You can find more about OHM at:
osm.wiki/Open_Historical_Map

129546279 over 2 years ago

Definitely no railway here across these buildings or roadway. There are no ties, sleepers, signals or other objects that would indicate the railway is "abandoned" or "razed". It simply does not exist (not to say it didn't at one point in time).

There are buildings, roadway and parking lots here. There are no abandoned objects from the railway.

Per the OSM wiki:
osm.wiki/Tag:railway%3Dabandoned

"A tag to map former railways, where the rails have been removed but the route is still visible with ties/sleepers, signals or other railroad right of way signs or infrastructure."

129546124 over 2 years ago

Definitely no railway here across these buildings or roadway. There are no ties, sleepers, signals or other objects that would indicate the railway is "abandoned" or "razed". It simply does not exist (not to say it didn't at one point in time).

There are buildings, roadway and parking lots here. There are no abandoned objects from the railway.

Per the OSM wiki:
osm.wiki/Tag:railway%3Dabandoned

"A tag to map former railways, where the rails have been removed but the route is still visible with ties/sleepers, signals or other railroad right of way signs or infrastructure."

129546001 over 2 years ago

There are no rails across this roadway. A local survey was done and there are no rails or sleepers across this stretch of railway that would meet the definition of "abandoned" or "razed". They have long been overbuilt and replaced. Along with the trees that used to be here way back when and perhaps the original dirt trails.

129545867 over 2 years ago

Each segment was examined using aerial imagery and other available tools. There is no trace remaining that would meet the definition of "abandoned" or "razed" IAW the wiki pages. There are no rails, ties, signals or other remants. They segments have long been overbuilt by buildings, roads, highways and parking lot. There are no railways going across the freeway.

126834994 over 2 years ago

What source did you use? I don't see any listed. I doubt that there is a major gas pipeline going under a bunch of houses. For example:

osm.org/way/1099411682

Specifically in this area:
osm.org/#map=17/29.95129/-97.89280

Other than aerial imagery and a ground survey (unlikely), how do you know that there is a pipeline exactly there?

Thanks.

100446360 over 2 years ago

You can use "Q" to square the buildings online. The pool outline is not correct and I have corrected it.

129462046 over 2 years ago

All segments removed have been long replaced by buildings, roadways or farmland where there are no ties, rails, wires or other remnants from the railway that *may* have existed.

Farmland that is being actively plowed and growing crops would not have any railway components that can meet the definition for "abandoned" or "razed" which require something along the lines of sleepers, rails or wires, none of which these "abandoned" railway contained.

57542729 over 2 years ago

FYI, the street numbers should not be placed in the name field. I have gone ahead and corrected it. :)

129426467 over 2 years ago

These segments were completely overbuilt and replaced by buildings, farmland or roadways, thus no trace of any "abandoned" or "razed" railway exists.

129419121 over 2 years ago

All segments removed were completely replaced by buildings, roadways, parking lots and farmland. None of which have any remants such as signals, sleepers, rails, etc. that would satisfy the requirement for "abandoned" or "razed". It does not exist today.

If it was added for "historical" purposes, it should be on OHM, not OSM.

129388193 over 2 years ago

:( That sucks!

129388193 over 2 years ago

Should be complete. I used the revertUI thingy.

Let me know if/when your changeset executes then I will revert my revert. :D