Yeah, fair point. This guy doesn't seem to be working with the broader Ukrainian community.

Hi Mazda05,

I see you're reverting the work of avinet_ua. Out of curiosity; what is your opinion on this user's translation edits in general?

Hello. I have a few questions/remarks about the addresses here:

addr:country tags should only contain the 2-letter code.

Building numbers (عمارة رقم ) should not be part of the addr:housenumber tag.

What does addr:daïra mean?

Why are there several places with addr:housenumber=0 ?

addr:city seems to be tagged in an inconsistent way: I found TAGHZOUT, Taghzout ⵜⴰⵖⵣⵓⵜ تغزوت and تغزوت. Which one is correct?

Hoi FSC73,

Ook hier vraag ik me af waarom je een prima in kaart gebrachte parkeerplaats om moest zetten in langsparkeren.

Zie ook een forumdiscussie uit oktober over het in kaart brengen van sportparken en -verenigingen: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/sportparken-en-name-tags/3904

Hoi FSC73,

Waarom maak je hier van een enkele parkeerplaats allemaal losse stukjes langsparkeren?

I added the picture as wikimedia_commons tag in osm.org/changeset/132386114.

As you say, the walls do not enclose the city. Therefore, they are functionally different from city walls. I agree with you that the barrier=wall tag would be wrong and too generic to use here. That said, deliberately mistagging all structures as walls is not a workable solution either.

Walls are usually regarded as linestrings, yet you have added the tag to OSM objects that are supposed to be closed ways (areas) instead. This leads to misrepresentations of the structures, for example at the tenailles and the redoubt.

Also, not every section is a separate fort. All sections are parts of Fort Adams, which, in accordance with OSM's "One feature, one OSM element" only be mapped once.

How is osm.org/way/1127882118 not a duplicate of osm.org/relation/11532810?

Thank you. Have a good day.

Reverted in osm.org/changeset/132005671

Hello,

I have deleted this object in osm.org/changeset/132005512.

You said that 99% of your last edits are Russian powergrid. I did notice you spamming small edits in Russia and Belarus all with false descriptions, but that doesn't take away that you are also a major contributor of power, place and waterway objects in Ukraine since the war broke out.

I agree with you that it's not the smartest choice of some mappers to delete already mapped infrastructure in Ukraine at will. If there was really any broad support for this, we would have seen such edits in a more organised fashion.

That said, the appeal of the Ukrainian mappers is respected by enough people now that you can see it clearly in the statistics. I wrote a forum post about that here: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/ukrainian-osm-community-appeal-re-edits-of-osm-data-during-russian-ukrainian-war/995/12

Last but not least, could you just stop mapping infrastructure in the eastern half of Ukraine for the duration of the war, please? Even if the data can be found elsewhere, we don't want to make OSM a part of the information war and we don't want to start edit wars with mappers who have different opinions about what should and shouldn't be mapped in this area. I hope this isn't too much to ask.

Hello olehz,

Your changeset comment is bullshit. You're mapping power infrastructure in Ukraine here.

The Ukrainian OSM community urges us not to edit the map of Ukraine during the war, so why are you mapping sensitive infrastructure in an active war zone?

For completeness, here is a link to the relevant OSM mapping guideline: osm.wiki/Russian%E2%80%93Ukrainian_war

Hello Hans_Hy,

Please write more informative changeset comments to explain to the community what you have edited. This helps mappers to review changesets, which is especially important in Ukraine with the war going on and all that.

Best regards,

Casper

Natuurlijk willen we de data graag zichtbaar hebben, maar daarvoor zijn we afhankelijk van de renderers en het is geen reden om voor elk label een name=* tag te gebruiken. Stel dat een andere renderer wel naar de ref tag kijkt, dan krijgt die te maken met een chaos van verkeerd getagde sportvelden, en dat willen we ook niet.

Ik kan nog links sturen van alle gedocumenteerde richtlijnen die hier relevant zijn, maar ik denk dat we elkaar zonder dat ook wel begrijpen.

Hoi keesm,

Beachvolleybal is de naam van de sport die bespeeld wordt. Dit was al getagd als sport=beachvolleybal. Een name=* tag is hierbij overbodig, dus die heb ik weer weggehaald.

Mvg,
Casper

Waarschijnlijk kan ik daar wel bij helpen, ja, maar ik weet nog niet eens wat ik morgenochtend als ontbijt ga eten, dus het voorjaar van 2024 is voor mij erg ver in de toekomst.

Hi JRH50,

Here too, the fort and this ravelin are not city walls, they are the walls of the fort. I do not see how this tag applies here.

Hey JRH50,

What exactly did you map at osm.org/way/1127882118? It doesn't have any physical attributes and since it's a way it's not a boundary. Also, how does it relate to osm.org/relation/11532810?

Hey JRH50,

Why did you tag every single part as a fort? All parts belong to Fort Adams, which is one single fort (see the "One feature, one OSM element" guideline). Especially defensive works like tenailles are definitely not forts.

On top of that, these are definitely not city walls, so I don't understand why you used this tag here.

Also, what is the purpose of historic=military + military=fort? It looks like a duplicate of historic=fort, and military tags don't even apply here since the military is no longer involved.

Dankjewel voor de reactie en voor het nakijken. Ik zie dat ik mijn inschatting hier verkeerd heb gemaakt. Ik heb de wijziging teruggedraaid in osm.org/changeset/131912774 en daarna heb ik nog de website toegevoegd. Ik zal hier in de toekomst rekening mee houden.

Mvg,
Casper