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64955859 over 6 years ago

also visible in Mapillary https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=43.63751944444444&lng=-79.4346&z=17&focus=photo&pKey=5qml5UkOOmYZmkN3Zo01xg

62899737 over 6 years ago

Hi, could you take a look at osm.org/note/1598552 about the side ramps off the Bayview-Bloor Ramp?

64150104 almost 7 years ago

Hello, you made one roadway of Father David Bauer Drive a secondary highway osm.org/way/143668956, but the roadway in opposite directory remained a tertiary highway osm.org/way/143668957, as did the remainder of the road. Did you mean to do this?

60763259 about 7 years ago

Thank you for the info, it is appreciated. I sent over a link to OSM's Data Working Group, they are likely in better position to make decisions about these edits.

60763259 about 7 years ago

Thank you for the background. I'm still a little unsure about this edit, maybe you can give some information about the following?

Is there any way to tell if this is part of an organized project, or what might be called a "challenge", to tag accessibility of Canadian bank branches?

Is it possible on wheelmap.org to contact original editors? Is it possible to tell who made the changes?

Unfortunately the addressing appears to be tragically bad. Just off the first page of edited nodes: osm.org/node/5764250555 is somewhere in Alberta (area code 780) but placed in NYC, osm.org/node/5764235857 area code 780 placed in UAE, osm.org/node/5764172454 is for Saskatchewan but placed in Brisbane, osm.org/node/5764189153 Saskatchewan on Long Island, osm.org/node/5764161353 Sasketchewan in Colorado, osm.org/node/5764158353 Saskatchewan in rural Australia, osm.org/node/5764130155 in the right province but ~1000 km off, osm.org/node/5764117253 BC in Washington.

On third page of changed nodes we have nodes intended to be in Quebec. At least I didn't see any of these in Australia. But for example osm.org/node/5763959054 should probably be near osm.org/node/715928900 which means it's about 12 km off - subtly wrong, but those are the worst!

osm.org/node/5763941655 has missing street name so it's probably in wrong location - searching on the internet suggests that it's Boulevard Arthur-Sauvé. Similar deal with osm.org/node/5763937853. osm.org/node/5763841153 duplicates already existing osm.org/node/2437893262, and osm.org/node/5763805954 duplicates osm.org/node/496143392.

The trend continues in more recent edits, for example osm.org/node/5796377255 is about 1.5 km off.

Additionally, as these span the country, they are extremely unlikely to come from one person. At most they are entered by several people. But it would take at least half a dozen to have surveyed all of these in person. Is it supposed to advertising? A commercial service adding companies to OSM - poorly?

As you might be able to tell, I'm concerned that this is basically taking information from a website and manually adding it to OSM - not very carefully at that. Adding to the fact that _most_ of the nodes I've seen in this changeset are in the wrong place, I'm really leaning towards recommending this for wholesale redaction. If we don't - who will go through and fix these nodes, and the other ones created through this account?

60721002 about 7 years ago

Hey Mike,

The note osm.org/note/1446752 suggests that the one-way stretch on Dawson extends one block further west. If you have a moment, could you confirm/double check, write a brief message, and make edits as/if needed?

60763259 about 7 years ago

User's other edits also appear to be partially wrong, e.g. osm.org/node/5754257021

60763259 about 7 years ago

osm.org/node/5764070254 with a British Columbia phone number placed in Lima...

60763259 about 7 years ago

this appears substantially wrong, osm.org/node/5764189153 with Saskatchewan address has been places in New York - possibly because street name is the same?!

44890807 about 7 years ago

Similar to osm.org/changeset/44757848

List of problems with this changeset found by manual inspection of names

osm.org/way/32255085 "Lane South Ascot West Earlsciurt" spelling
osm.org/way/34116598 old_name "Lane West Avenue South Mcmaster" is assuredly not an official old name and in any case mis-capitalizes "McMaster"
osm.org/way/69845176 "Lane West Spadina North Sussex Avenue" doesn't meet your usual scheme
osm.org/way/23434369 "Lane West Hurron North susex Avenue" - this is actually west of Huron with one R, north of Sussex with two S, inconsistent use of "Avenue"
osm.org/way/23434356 "Lane East Spadina South Susex Avenue" Sussex misspelled, inconsistent use of "Avenue"
osm.org/way/7991745 "Lane East Spadina Susex Avenue" again Sussex
osm.org/way/10070568 "Lane West Spadina South college" capitalization
osm.org/way/83070954 "Lane North dundas East Augusta" capitalization
osm.org/way/22795691 "Lane North dundas West Euclid" capitalization
osm.org/way/5941217 "Lane North dundas East Markham" capitalization
osm.org/way/10187165 "Lane North Qeen East Euclid Avenue" spelling
osm.org/way/10070533 "Lane North Dundas West Denison Avenue" inconsistent use of "Avenue"

Please fix.

44757848 about 7 years ago

Hello,

Is this a joke?

Does Telenav do QA?

osm.org/way/8095700 and osm.org/way/8095686 "Lane South West Lisgar" when it should be "South Afton West Lisgar" after your scheme
osm.org/way/26103731 "Lane North Alma eAST Dufferin"
osm.org/way/8095682 "Lane North Queen East Northcore" which should be Northcote
osm.org/way/462584208 "Lane East dufferin South Stonehouse" capitalization
osm.org/way/149593024 "Lane North WQueen west Markham" capitalization, spelling
osm.org/way/10187164 "Lane North WQueen west Markham" capitalization, spelling
osm.org/way/22788372 "Lane 1 South dundas West Euclid" capitalization, not to mention there isn't a Lane 2 so why Lane 1?
osm.org/way/22795625 "Lane South dundas West Manning" capitalization
osm.org/way/8099875 "Lane East Crowford North Adelaide" spelling, it's Crawford
osm.org/way/30840826 "Lane East Portland south Queen" inconsistent capitalization
osm.org/way/118626499 "Lane East Bathurust North Wolseley" spelling
osm.org/way/83327382 "Lane East Ohara North Maple Grove" spelling, the avenue name is "O'Hara"
osm.org/way/81139241 "Lane North Queen East Ohara Avenue" spelling, use of "Avenue" inconsistent with your other format
osm.org/way/81139375 "Lane 2 S Dundas E Palmerston" suddenly inconsistent format - why? because you copied from the "note" from initial CanVec import?
osm.org/way/81139255 "Lane E Brock S Earnbridge" same
osm.org/way/146987567 "Lane North Dundas West ritchie" capitalization
osm.org/way/26140020 "Lane North Dewson west ossington" capitalization
osm.org/way/26140018 "Lane South Hepbourne West ossington" capitalization
osm.org/way/23225347 "Lane North Dundas east Golden" capitalization
osm.org/way/26103808 "Lane SWest Dufferin South Florence" what is "SWest"

This is why we prefer to have local mappers do mapping! Your company is making a bad name for itself through these edits. Why are we doing QA for you? Why should I fix it for you rather than revert these descriptive names wholesale?

60562983 about 7 years ago

Hi,

Thank you for adding the Hunsing clinic.

Your edit also broke the map a bit (see in screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/YOroSuL ). I have now un-done the broken parts in changeset 60773787.

Cheers,
Jarek

55420968 about 7 years ago

in osm.org/changeset/60696107 korrigiert

55420968 about 7 years ago

Hallo,

osm.org/way/552943235/history landuse=residential fuer Herzberg/Vulkan/Siegfried/Josef-Orlopp-Strasse-Block? Erst nach 20 Jahren mehr Gentrifizierung...

Tippfehler?

59590780 about 7 years ago

Hi - you've added a business in Dallas, but placed it in a residential neighbourhood in St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada. I have removed it in osm.org/changeset/59915755 - if you would like to re-add it, please make sure to put it in the correct spot in Dallas.

55906257 about 7 years ago

Hm, the best places I can think of for the discussion would be talk-ca mailing list https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca or maybe tagging https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging though then you have to account for worldwide usage

There is forum https://forum.openstreetmap.org/ but the Canadian section is dead and I don't see a good tagging section, and the wiki discussions always seem mixed at best...

55906257 about 7 years ago

But, the Lansdowne example showcases the problem, doesn't it?

When you draw a separate sidewalk without a crossing, on Lansdowne it means that crossing is not permitted or safe or sometimes physically possible. But your method would have the same tag of sidewalk without a crossing mean that crossing is allowed everywhere at Galley and Sorauren.

How could a router do this without a ruleset that specifies that for example tertiary roads can be crossed but secondary roads cannot? Such a ruleset would have to be Ontario-specific as elsewhere primary and trunk tags are used for the kind of road that we see on Lansdowne. (London, England has many narrow, slow streets tagged primary that are much safer to cross than the average Toronto avenue.) Isn't it easier to just use a tagging scheme that doesn't require routers guessing?

I also don't see a problem with mapping a perpendicular path to centerline, especially with the sidewalk is not mapped in the first place. Slip roads are mapped to centerline (osm.org/way/23000751) without much controversy.

55906257 about 7 years ago

Yes indeed there are many different ways to map these. I assume you've seen osm.wiki/Sidewalks#How_to_map ?

My interpretation would be that the OSM way for these roads is symbolic anyway (it goes down the centre of the roadway, doesn't specify width, etc - Toronto doesn't use osm.wiki/Proposed_features/Street_area ), so adding symbolic sidewalk information (e.g. sidewalk=both, sidewalk:width=1 m) on the road ways in cases of "simple" sidewalks should be fine.

If I may: adding the new ways doesn't seem to me to add much value and creates some problems for routers having to guess where jumping between ways/crossing streets is possible, or guessing names of sidewalks from names of nearby street (to instruct "walk south on Sorauren Avenue" rather than "walk south on this unnamed sidewalk").

But of course if you're keen on continuing then do go on, it's an open project.

55906257 about 7 years ago

Hey Nate. Thanks for adding the detail. When you draw sidewalks, please take care to link them to the roads at intersections. The ways must cross and have a common node. Otherwise the routers get confused as to how people can go, and you get results like these: https://i.imgur.com/rSBmDUU.png

58369377 over 7 years ago

Hi! Thank you for following up on this and providing on-the-ground information for open hours. I amended the information slightly in osm.org/changeset/58552581 as there exists a specific syntax that can encode the access in a computer-readable format - see OSM wiki osm.wiki/Key:opening_hours and osm.wiki/Conditional_restrictions - it's a bit complicated and not easy to find so no worries - getting the information in the first place is the hard part :)

Thanks again for helping with OSM!