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111745264 almost 4 years ago

Yes, as soon as I entered this I realized it was far, far too large. I've done better going forward -- appreciate the ping.

111745350 almost 4 years ago

Yeah, as soon as I made it I winced -- should have split it into smaller pieces. Sorry about that!

93761082 almost 5 years ago

I fixed some of the crossed lines added in here, in osm.org/changeset/93826824

93760369 almost 5 years ago

This broke the coastline for all of North & South America (by causing it to cross in Northwest Cove by Bayside). This was fixed in this changeset: osm.org/changeset/93798791

Please be careful about this sort of thing. Thanks!

66949038 almost 5 years ago

I don't think this is correctly tagged; this does not seem to be any type of aerialway.

90832546 almost 5 years ago

Please don't mix edits over such a long distance, as it creates very large changeset bounding boxes, that make it harder to review changes.

90766541 almost 5 years ago

This is a very large change, and I'm having trouble figuring out what it is supposed to consist of. (The single word "buildings" doesn't seem explain much, as at least some of the added elements aren't tagged as buildings). Could you clarify?

88211516 about 5 years ago

As of Jan 9, 2020, Rio de la Plata was marked (incorrectly, according to you (and, unlike christiank61, I have no interest in disputing this)) as coastline.

Fixing this error in one change is large enough to trigger an automatic circuit breaker, which can only be overridden if there is clear, un-ambigous consensus among multiple mappers in support of the change.

Rather than forming and documenting this consensus (on the wiki), an alternative is to split up the change into small enough pieces not to trigger the circuit breaker.

I don't care which of those two methods you use to fix the error -- but if you continue to disruptively refuse to use either of them, you will simply be wasting everyone's time. I urge you to pick one of the feasible methods I explained, and use it.

88211516 about 5 years ago

For the sake of my email, I'd politely request that you move further discussion of whether Rio de la Plata is a coastline or not to the wiki -- but if you really want to do it here ... sigh ... I suppose you must.

88211516 about 5 years ago

While I am glad you two are discussing this (the mappers concerned about this particular area do need to come to a consensus) -- that is NOT what this changeset is about.

As I said, I do NOT have an opinion on how this mapped; I merely (but strongly) insist that the rest of the world still get coastline updates.

Of the two options I provided (small slow changes or a formal proposal on the wiki) It sounds like muralito (and hopefully christiank61) prefer the formal proposal.

To implement that, please follow this link and create this page: osm.wiki/Rio_de_la_Plata and fill it with your discussion (although you should likely have a formal vote, too.)

I don't know how much support/consensus you will need to convince joto (the person who can make an override of the update script) -- but a clear write up of the issue ON THE WIKI is an obvious precondition.

Please, for the sake of the rest of the world, DO NOT (I repeat, DO NOT) apply this (or any other) large change without previously getting a clear statement from joto, on the wiki, that he will apply a manual override.

I will revert any such change, promptly.

88211516 about 5 years ago

Sure -- it's a strange and frankly kinda silly reason, so I don't blame you at all for being confused by it!

The rendering of the coastline on openstreetmap.org is based on data produced by osmdata.openstreetmap.de, daily. As part of that process, the script that does it checks to see how much the coastline (across the world) changed since the previous valid day (normally the previous day, but, right now, all the way back to Jan 9, 2020). If the difference is more than 0.0000015 (as shown here: https://github.com/fossgis/osmdata/blob/master/scripts/coastline/compare-coastline-polygons.sh#L13 ), it automatically rejects it.

And changing the Rio de la Plata to be correctly marked as not an ocean is way bigger than that. So in order to avoid this automatic block, we need to change small sections, one each day. Or we need to make a formal proposal (probably on the wiki), get explicit buy-in from a bunch of local mappers, then go to the maintainer of the script and ask for a manual override.

Either way is fine with me -- but just making the change all at once merely causes the rest of the world to not get any coastline updates, which is bad for everyone.

Hope that explains things more -- I'm glad to clarify further if it doesn't!

88256333 about 5 years ago

Reverting (for now) to enable worldwide coastline updates to go thru. As discussed on the other edit -- this is fine to do, but it needs to be done slowly enough to not trip the automatic circuit breaker.

88211516 about 5 years ago

The updates to the coastline have not been updated for six months. That's what I'm trying to fix. I have no opinion on this particular change -- but it's so large that it triggers an automatic circuit breaker. Once we've gotten the updates to go thru, please DO revert Rio de la Plata back to being marked as not-coastline -- just do so in small enough chunks that it doesn't trigger the circuit breaker. I'm happy to work with you to help do that.

79774935 over 5 years ago

I'm not sure I follow. What do you intend the "oneway=yes" tag to mean? The wiki page for it says it refers to access restrictions for vehicles -- as far as I know, no vehicles are allowed on this canal, in either direction. Please say more?

79768596 over 5 years ago

Awesome, that's a great source, thank you! (and thanks for exploring them :-) )

79768596 over 5 years ago

I wasn't able to find any information online about "Hanging Flat Mine" (there's one in the UK, but that's obviously a different thing). What's your source for it?

16916784 over 5 years ago

Removed in: osm.org/changeset/79774935

16916784 over 5 years ago

I'm not sure why you marked a canal as "oneway=yes" in this changeset. I've removed that for now, feel free to put it back if it was intended.

64293463 over 5 years ago

FYI, voltage should be a raw number, in volts, without the "k"

66010387 almost 6 years ago

I think you made Node: 6183029905 by mistake. I've removed it, feel free to add it back if it was intentional.