Hi, sorry for the delay in replying. I have tagged the cycling infrastructure accurately for the interim version of C4 and in compliance with osm.wiki/Key:cycleway. Cycle lanes (including wanded tracks) should be tagged on the main road, not as separate ways, even if they are two-way. I have also tagged these cycle lanes/tracks as being two-way.

To map the on-road sections as separate ways misrepresents/exaggerates the infrastructure. Once fully rendered by CyclOSM, the new C4 section will appear accurately with thicker lines to show that the lanes are two-way.

I've got most of it mapped now (guided by the footways and gojauntly maps, which do actually differ at some locations). There could be some minor inaccuracies on OSM but it should probably be good enough to follow (and correct where necessary.)

I've left 2 gaps around Elephant & Castle where a ground survey would be needed to work out exactly where pedestrians are intended to cross the the road.

Thanks for the update.

Hi. There's a link to the document (from Wandsworth Council) at https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/1756586776896954567?t=6rgdoAaexzvnjMknSKqq_w&s=19

13 routes are set to be part of a single consultation which I believe is set to begin in the next week or 2.

You can cross already, but the crossing on the south side of the bridge is to get revised in the coming months.

There could still be significant future changes between the bridge and Connolly Station.

osm.org/changeset/145835759 would indicate that it did reopen. I've now removed the access=no tagging.

Hi, I had a look at this last night but couldn't detect a duplicate node.

I've been editing quite a bit around this estate, so I might have already in some way corrected this, but I'm not sure.

The only lane markings on this section of road at the junction are the cycle lanes.

Thanks. I did some more edits along here last night, and also at the recently removed roundabout. Your recent Mapillary imagery was invaluable.

It is, yeah. I passed that way myself yesterday.

Someone filmed a bus ride 4 days ago that shows the restriction/permission sign. See https://youtu.be/LXxl8GfVWUA?si=X7SWqBlxbksMGvQD&t=167

I think you must have been referring to osm.org/way/1122042226. The highway=footway tag was added in error. I have now removed the errant tag.

Which footway are you referring to?

Hi,
As the AMB cycle network will consist of what are officially called 'xarxa basica' (which will all be numbered routes in the future) + 'xarxa secundaria' (not numbered), I've started to use this 'route:class' tag as a way to distinguish between these 2 subtypes of rcn routes in the region.

I don't know of any official tag for doing this, so I used a customised tag (route:class).

Many maps of the cycle network only show the 'xerxa basica', including the maps along route sections that have already been numbered. It's useful to have a tag that can be used to create a customised map to render these 2 subtypes differently.

(I have also seen the terms 'primary' and 'secondary' in use for routes within London's cycle network.)

This would be a LIP-funded scheme (to extend Cycleway 10). However TfL withheld LIP funding during the pandemic and are only selectively funding scheme like this at the moment.

This scheme is still likely to go ahead at some point once funded is received.

Much of the bypass has been constructed now (see https://youtu.be/yoy5fEWfjCQ?si=kE5wRVWtVGTuIf08) and there is a clear distinction between (I) what is yet to be constructed and (ii) what is already a roadway that's being kept inaccessible to the public but is being used to gain access to the construction areas.

There will be no pedestrian or cycle access here for several months.

You can see the closed off works area (on left side of the bus) at https://youtu.be/OdqoNEVJYlo?si=bUHKpu6G7Hgr92Q7&t=112.

A section of this sidewalk even needed to be removed - this is close to where the Silvertown Tunnel emerges.

I generally use JOSM for fixing route relations, especially bus routes. It's a steep learning curve to learn how to use it though.

It's relatively straightforward to fix a simple route than just has a gap introduced in it, but it gets more complicated with a bus route that passes along one or more roads more than once.

It might be related to the Tideways works, as the current (long-term diversion) two-way cycle link between C3 and C6 resulted in the sliproad from Victoria Embankment becoming exit only... until the previous layout gets restored.

It looks as though you might not have got the southbound primary 'route' on Puddle Dock as you had intended. Worth having another look at it.

Hi. Sorry for the delay in replying.

The following is my take on what is a crossing object (node) and what isn't a crossing object (way).

With the node/way for crossings. it's the highway tag that defines what the object is (similar to a noun). The subtags just add detail about the object (similar to adjectives).

Node:
A crossing on a road is mapped and definied as an intersection NODE on the road. Without a "highway=crossing" tag this is an undefined node. Even if a footway is connected to the node, it is this "highway=crossing" node that is further defined according to what type of crossing it is. with tags such as "crossing=traffic_signals".

Way:
A "footway=crossing" is added to "highway=footway" to indicate what type of a FOOTWAY it is. Without a "highway=footway" tag a "footway=crossing" is an undefined way. A "footway=crossing" is definied as the width of the roadway from one kerb to the other kerb, i.e. it's part of a roadway rather than being a true footway,

This 'crosswalk' FOOTWAY never has tactile paving or traffic signals - these are always on the sidewalk/crossing island. Tagging with "crossing:island" on the footway is just as meaningless as it would be if tagged on the road - this tag was created for crossing nodes to avoid use of "crossing=island".

The 'crosswalk' FOOTWAY can be tagged with surface (a tag not added to a crossing node!) and this way is either marked/zebra or not marked.

To avoid confusion, I think "footway=crosswalk"would be a better way to subtag these footways. The iD editor is particularly poor at distinguishing between the nodes + ways, and I'm sure lots of users are being led astray by iD.

In the last few months, with their preset "marked crossing" for nodes, iD have at least stopped mistagging these nodes as "crossing=marked" and now use the correct "crossing=uncontrolled".

If you look at he last 2 tagging examples at osm.wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtraffic_signals#How_to_map_(new), these do not add "crossing=traffic_signals" to the crosswalks ('Green ways').

I can see that at osm.wiki/Tag:footway%3Dcrossing (the English version) User:Victor.yarema added (in Feb 2021) an example with the "crossing=traffic_signals" subtag.

Having looked at the other 9 main language versions: this "crossing=traffic_signals" did get added into the German wiki (in Nov 2022), but it is not present on the French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese or Polish etc wikis. As such, it appears to not be an approved change to the wiki.