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90017152 about 5 years ago

The footway along the Dives estuary is NOT a designated cycleway. It is marked in the notes that cycling is prohibited along its entire course.
The designated tag will be reverted and changed to dismount, as is sign posted.

89858242 about 5 years ago

Tu as raison, le wiki dis bien que pour la France trunk aurait comme équivalence une voie rapide. Je suis surpris car cette définition va à l'encontre des autres pays et ignore complètement le tag motorroad=yes qui est là spécifiquement pour les 2x2 voies et autres voies rapides de type 110km/h. Cela mériterait discussion.

89858242 about 5 years ago

J'avoue ne pas avoir lu la convention des trunk roads sur le Wiki OSM mais la définition de trunk en général est un itinéraire recommandé pour les longues distances et le fret. L'itinéraire n'est pas lié à la classification de la rue et est représenté, en France ou au Royaume-Uni par exemple, par des panneaux de destination/direction de couleur verte. Une départementale, nationale ou même communale peut être trunk, tant qu'elle sert d'itinéraire principal.

Les routes avec séparateur central devraient êtres taggées motorroad=yes qui s'apparente à la 'voie express' en France. Qu'en dis-tu?

89858242 about 5 years ago

Quel est le rapport entre la classification départementale et trunk? Trunk = route verte et l'itinéraire de la D19 est vert, par blanc...

88297900 about 5 years ago

Exactement, je te fais confiance dans le futur.

88297900 about 5 years ago

Je sais ce qu'il reste, tu as supprimé au moins 5 tracés que j'ai été obligé de remettre. Tu as aussi supprimé des tags. Sauf si tu veux que je le refasse, évite de les supprimer.

88297900 about 5 years ago

Pourquoi as-tu supprimé railway=abandoned de certaines voies?

87608052 about 5 years ago

TVR (Transport en Voie Réservée) have stops marked as railway=tram_stop, you're right. There is no intermediate tag between bus_stop and tram_stop, though, both are obsolete, they shold be public_transport=stop then the vehicles marked, in this case trolleybus=yes.

You have hit the nail though, they are branded as trams but they are not trams... We have many different tags to differeciate things, even if RATP wanted to save money with buses on segregated carriageways, they're still not trams. What some editors do is edit for the render, which means they see a blue line and think it's wrong, it's just a tag that differenciates a vehicle on rails and another on tyres. Take care!

87607482 about 5 years ago

Please do not change the T5 and T6 to tramway. The vehicles are road tyre vehicles on a road with a contactless guided rail.

Track type of T5 and T6: railway: tram attribute have been deleted. The T5 and 6 are a road vehicles with tires with a guide rail. This type of transport does not run on rails but on a roadway, concrete for the most part iirc.
It is important to correctly tag the modes of transport and not to generalise. A guided road vehicle must be tagged as guided busway, with or without a guide rail (the notion of guiding is important).

87608052 about 5 years ago

Please do not change the T5 and T6 to tramway. The vehicles are road tyre vehicles on a road with a contactless guided rail.

79166293 over 5 years ago

Hi Michel, I appreciate you taking time to answer. Allow me to give more detail. Several things need to be considered for the tagging.
First, the is no doubt that T5 and T6 are not trams. Trams can basically be considered trains.
Second comes the challenge of tagging these vehicles & lines. The lines don't have tracks but are roads, à 'chaussée', perhaps a piste. TVR or Transport en Voie Réservée has never been tagged as a tram. A road reserved for road transport will be tagged as highway. The guide rail not withstanding makes no difference to the vehicles which are electric buses. So we have the bighway=guidedbusway.
These indeed are shown as blue lines on the map but that's how they are rendered.. We don't choose that. As a reserved roadway the tag is correct regardless of the colour of the road on the map. We do not tag for the look of the map.
Third is how to tag the lines, the 'relation'. These vehicles are road vehicles so we have a bus. If they were autonomous they would just be buses but as they take current from overhead wires the line relation type should be tagged as a trolleybus.
The only reason some may not like this tagging is the ne given to them by the operator. RATP doesn't use the trolleybus naming but this does not matter to us, we map technically correct regardless of how RATP calls them.
We, unlike RATP, can use all the tools, nomenclature etc, to correctly tag what things are. We, you, me, are better than them :)
I hope this explains everything.
Regards

79166293 over 5 years ago

Track type of T5 and T6: railway: tram attribute have been deleted. The T5 and 6 are a road vehicles with tires with a guide rail. This type of transport does not run on rails but on a roadway, concrete for the most part iirc.
It is important to correctly tag the modes of transport and not to generalise. A guided road vehicle must be tagged as guided busway, with or without a guide rail (the notion of guiding is important).

79878637 over 5 years ago

Votre comportement sans coopération, ignorant et imposant votre vision, et ayant posté mes messages privés, je vous informe avoir rapporté ton compte à OSM.

73062053 almost 6 years ago

Pas faut, mais j'ai pris l'écartement et type de trains en compte ainsi que les tags utilisés pour des Chemins de Fer similaires. Alors qu'un train miniature est un train jouet qui ne va nul part, la Ligne du jardin d'acclimatation est, comme l'indique sa page Wikipedia, un chemin de fer à voie étroite. Aussi, les voitures ont s'y assoit comme dans un train, on n'est à cheval comme une scelle.

69032982 about 6 years ago

Si tu veux, les termes sont interchangeables dans ce context en Anglais.

69032982 about 6 years ago

Oui, ce n'est pas une reception comme tu l'entends. Les visiteurs ne sont pas acceptés, expliqués par les portes marqués privées.

63092552 almost 7 years ago

OSM's wiki discourages the use of -1 and to reverse a way instead. For cycleways I use the wiki osm.wiki/Key:cycleway as reference. Check the discussion tab, the cycleway:left:oneway tag was discussed.
cycleway:left can be enhanced by a third variable (:oneway) and not all renderers will show but it's still a valid tag. Renders will eventually catch up.

63092552 almost 7 years ago

You're right, it should not be oppsite. I corrected it to opposite. -1 is not, to my knowledge an appropriate value for cycleway:left:oneway.

62907425 almost 7 years ago

Please mind your language. If you have a question to ask, please do so by contacting me directly. Please keep to a civil manner in a less aggressive tone. I have unsubscribed from this this changeset and will receive no more notifications.
PS: You will address me in a courteous manner; I am not your mec.
PPS: private messages are private, you no reason to aggressively refer to them as I have yet to contact you.

62907425 almost 7 years ago

Communique par message privé enfin!