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167647408 约1个月前

The last two should be a open source due to its Chinese government doc.

166877195 2个月前

编辑是好的,可以留

166118384 2个月前

↑ 或者分不清楚,县就同时挂在市和省下(暴论)

166118384 2个月前

阁下同意甲乙以及平潭试验区的存在的话,那么争论可能主要就是试验区的level是5(参考雄安新区)还是7(绝大部分黑区)、以及试验区是否下辖县。

针对是二问题,我确实看见了福建省政府灌完下把平潭与地市单列,发文会将地市、平潭试验区并列放一起的情况( https://www.fujian.gov.cn/zwgk/zfxxgk/szfwj/jgzz/xzgfxwj/202301/t20230106_6088043.htm ),可能试验区有地级化的倾向,平潭试验区政府官网称试验区「实行区县合一体制」( https://www.pingtan.gov.cn/zjpt/rwls/202408/t20240827_93222.htm ),但也没说「下辖」平潭县。

那试验区admin level可能可以是5(假如试验区是类似地级的级别的话,因为省也可以直辖县),不过您提到县既然还有维持以前状态、福州代管的部门,暂时先还是挂在福州下吧?(仅代表个人意见,可能需要您跟社区进一步讨论)

此外,今天tg群内对这个有半个下午的讨论,并且由此延伸出了其他话题,简单总结可参考 osm.org/user/NM$L/diary/406754 ,不过还是建议您去tg讨论(我知道您没有义务加群,但是现状就是大家基本在那里讨论,因为不论是站内信、wiki、编辑集留言都比较散,不集中)

166118384 2个月前

↑ 以及Q群中

166118384 2个月前

今天才看见这个「争议」啊,虽然在OSMChina群发过了,但是考虑到一定希望在站内说说,在这里也发下,只是发表对平潭标注处理的个人建议哈,我不想吵。

甲、平潭县还存在吗?->存在
好,首先有了平潭县这个relation存在的基础。

乙、平潭县归谁管?->福州市吧
(当然我这里不太确定,没细查,但是看起来不像试验区管辖,现当福州市吧)
好,那么平潭县属于福州市的subarea。

丙、平潭综合试验区是什么?->福建省直属的一个管理区
好,试验区的relation也该存在,且应该是福建省的subarea。

丁、平潭县和试验区的区域可以重合吗?->可以,因为试验区算「黑区」
好,那么福州囊括的是平潭县,福州市的边界应该包含平潭县,这个和试验区无关,试验区的省所囊括的。

总结就是「我个人的一个判断标准就是几套牌子是几个relation,实际管辖用来区分是否作为subarea和subarea缀在谁下面」(https://t.me/osmchina/93432/163535),那么这里我的处理应该是「俩relation,实验区7县6,区域重叠,县挂在福州下、实验区挂在省下,平潭的乡镇归谁管就挂实验区/县下面」(https://t.me/osmchina/93432/163539),都归的话那就挂在俩下面。
与现状不同的是,县被挂在了试验区下面,我目前没有找到明显证据说明试验区管县,也没找到试验区是地级的资料。

我不对阁下其他言论做评价,但是提醒阁下中国社区的主要讨论在tg群中。

166053622 3个月前

问题出在关系11516599,还有不建议为了渲染画图

162429430 3个月前

你好,图们江、鸭绿江等确实是两国共有的,江面确实同时归二国共管。

参考来源:
a) https://news.cnr.cn/native/gd/20150108/t20150108_517346802.shtml ;
b) http://www.dili360.com/cng/article/p5e1d60b725f0426.htm 等等

162994434 5个月前

为啥不沿山脊线了?有来源吗

159236341 5个月前

我还买过你信不😅

159236341 5个月前

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1sk4y1i7Y9/

159236341 5个月前

对了下视频是这里

160333574 7个月前

The changeset has been reverted for political vandalism. Please follow de-facto when mapping. Happy mapping~

158917260 9个月前

Hi, it's struggle to apply highway=trunk for all these road. Could you explain why you tagging it?

157449114 10个月前

Please explain what is the confusion and why you do this changeset, making several relations broken and making the bounder against the actual situation?

156425219 11个月前

I have mentioned that OSM follows the de-facto policy, so labels for China controlled area should be labeled in Chinses, same as Vietnam controlled area labeled in Vietnamese.

156425219 11个月前

"OpenStreetMap maps world as it exists, and includes mapping borders and countries according to actual current situation and not a preferred or ideal situation." (osm.wiki/Disputed_territories)

OSM follows the de-facto policy which is equal to every country. China also has many historical material to support its claim from of old until in now, like 诸蕃志 said China has administrated this area since A.D.789 (under 振州's administration), 四海测验 (1279), 琼台外记 (Ming), 琼州府志 (1841), etc. If every country maps as its claim, the map would be in a mess. So, OSM follows the de-facto to map the real world rather than somebody's imagination world.

156425219 11个月前

Hello @cngvng,
This area (including the Paracel Islands and Spratly Islands) is a disputed territory, which should be tagged in the language of the country that actually controls the territory; information about territorial disputes is typically noted in administrative relations and tags. Simply renaming elements to quotes like "quần đảo Hoàng Sa" is a destructive behavior, and does not help on labeling features on disputed territories. Therefore, I have restored some of the damaged data because OSM follows the "de facto" principle. If you still have questions, feel free to communicate.

137150705 约1年前

Why do this?

153303490 约1年前

你好,结合您先前做出的编辑,你似乎正在再一次删除实际存在的名称,但没有给出合理的理由。请你查看先前编辑集讨论中提及的关于争议地区的名称表示方法。

该变更集已在 osm.org/changeset/153323493 中回退。