You have to know that in OSM, a way shared by bus and bikes is primarily a “cycleway”:

osm.wiki/Template:Map_Features:cycleway

Buses are just tolerated there ^^ Who said that OSM is cyclists centric ?

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No, no, no. Someone asked me if “ASL” is for “asshole”, based on its pronunciation. No, it’s not. It’s neither for “Above See Level”, nor for “American Signed Language”. No, no, no. In the OSM community, “ASL” is for “Advanced Stop Line” and is only provided for cyclists.

English is not your native language ? but you like to contribute to OSM ? And you don’t know what means ‘asl’, ‘it’ or ‘ngo’ ? Your dictionnary doesn’t help you ? Who cares ! Return to Google Map Maker, moron !

That’s what I feel when I find OSM objects carrying such tags… And btw, all of such tags are always documented “as de facto” and never through a consensus process… Please think about the 75% of the world not using english as mother tongue.

Do you know any other map that is able to show the exact railroad switch responsible of the train crash last week-end ?

osm.org/browse/node/1097986616

Seen here : https://twitter.com/cq94/status/355809199982247936

lol, an american tourist trusting his GPS sat nav instructions in Switzerland and falling in steps:

http://www.20min.ch/ro/news/suisse/story/Il-suit-son-GPS-et-s-engage-dans-des-escaliers-24926325

Btw, the steps are clearly indicated in OSM: osm.org/?way=134989608

I discovered some new (anonymous) “notes” which are not very specific. Something like “addresses are missing here” or “add buildings please”. What should we do with such “notes” ? is there any policy specifying how we can decide to close a “note” (which cannot be unclosed afterwards) ?

Curieux. Quand on regarde les statistiques sur le tag “addr:housenumber” en France, on trouve ceci:
Numéro de maison || nombre d’exemplaires
3 || 45 282
4 || 44 402
2 || 44 222
1 || 44 086
5 || 42 374

(source : http://taginfo.openstreetmap.fr/keys/addr:housenumber#values)

Ca veut dire qu’en France, soit il y a moins d’adresses en no 1 et no 2, soit on ne les trouve pas. Ou alors, j’ai peut-être une autre explication : le cadastre omet souvent de mettre les numéros d’adresses à proximité des intersections, sans que je comprenne bien pourquoi. Mais ceci explique peut-être cela ;-)

Incidement, on constate que le nombre d’exemplaires baisse lorsque le numéro de maison augmente, ce qu’on peut comprendre puisqu’on cumule les grandes rues et les petites rues. Sauf. sauf, pour le numéro 10 qui passe devant le numéro 9:
10 || 34 118
9 || 33 818

C’est d’ailleurs une tendance qu’on constate aussi sur les statistiques mondiales: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/addr:housenumber#values

Et là, je ne vois aucune explication rationnelle à ce mystère…

Michelin is not only the 2nd largest tyre manufacturer in the world. It is also a famous publisher of tourist guides and road maps.

This month, Michelin is releasing its first paper map based on OSM ! It is centered on Clermond-Ferrand city (Michelin’s headquarter) at a 1/12.000e scale.

Attribution and licence seem to be compliant: https://twitter.com/RatZillaS/status/314788399095631872/photo/1

You can see the price at some online shops. For instance, here: http://livre.fnac.com/a5152703/Collectif-Clermont-Ferrand

Récemment, un fil de discussion sur la liste talk-fr soulève une nouvelle fois la question de savoir si un certain type de données peut ou ne peut pas figurer dans OSM. En l’occurence ici, il s’agit des zones de risques sismiques tels que définis par l’administration (http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-fr/2013-March/055764.html). Certains pensent que ce type d’information pourrait s’afficher avec des applications extérieures de type u{map}(http://umap.fluv.io/), sans pouvoir définir clairement sur quel critère on peut décider que telle ou telle information irait ou n’irait pas dans la base de données OSM.
Christian Quest se demande aussi pourquoi nous accepterions les AOC dans le vignoble et pas les zones sismiques. Son argument étant que l’information est utile et qu’il faut trouver un équilibre entre contributeurs et utilisateurs, le principal étant que cela soit “facile à intégrer et mettre à jour” pour les contributeurs et “facile à exploiter” pour les ré-utilisateurs (par là il veut sans doute dire un balisage clair, documenté et une modélisation simple).

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delete plz

Est-ce que la fermeture d’une partie de la voie express rive gauche à Paris est correctement prise en compte dans OSM ?

Since dec 2012, a small French startup is selling a city map carpet for kids. Choose your area in OSM slippymap, 2 clics and the customized carpet will be produced just for you. Cost is 59€ + transport. Colours and zoom are optimized for kids playing with their toys. Carpet size is 128x80cm.

http://www.aberlaas.com/fr/FR

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Currently French community members importing buildings into OSM are blocked by the DWG (Data Working Group) if they don’t use a separate user account. The problem is that the French community explaines since weeks to the DWG why this requirement, altough making sens for big mechanical import, does not make sens in this case because the imports are limited on small areas (villages), in numbers (between 1000 up to 10000 buildings in worst cases), in types of objects (only buildings) and damages (none if the user follows the import guideline) and more importantly, is crowdsourced, means that everyone is invited to participate to the import if they have a mimimum of experience in JOSM. The funny thing is that the imports are performed like this since years without problems. Until the DWG set-up its own tools detecting big changesets. Whatever is good or bad in the changesets, they request a separate user account, some rule established im a totally opaque way. In early days, when we got problems like users failing to upload or not following our guidelines, the French community was big enough to check, communicate and fix things himself. What is even more funny is how the dialog with the DWG members is:

– hey, DWG, we import buildings since years. Your request for a separate account is painful for a delta contributors who is maybe uploading just his village and next one into OSM (a second user account requires a second email address, you cannot use the same email as your first account)

– (DWG) : no, the rule is “use a separate account for imports”

– but we accept and use this rules for big imports or when it is completely mechanical. Here we ask people to verify on JOSM and integrate with the existing. Most of the time, it will improve the old data and improve the future contributions. Uploads are rarely isolated with 100% original data.

– (DWG) : no, the rule is “use a separate account for imports”

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The recent iOS6 “plans” story is telling me that our license, the old CC-By-SA and the new ODbl, is failing. When we read the attributions on “Plans”, we can see that OSM is the last of a long list of other sources. But nobody is able to say what comes from where. Because OSM has been recently mentionned as a new source for Apple iPhoto, the crappy “Plans” has been often commented as a result of using the crappy OSM project. Even the foundation had to publish a blog explaining that OSM is not responsible for the disaster. But it is too late. Now, worldwide, the impact on the OSM reputation is highly negative after this story. This would have been different if our license did require the attribution directly on the screen and only on areas really using OSM data.

Yesterday evening, openstreetmap.fr audience doubled after the broadcast of the TV program “Le dessous des cartes” on ARTE channel (“Mit offenen Karten” in the German version). The short program (11’) was about “Cartography 2.0” and after a first half introducing the subject, a good second half spoke about OSM and its competitors. Short but very positive for us. The video is visible on the net for a while (probably in French and German, check that out). Wheelmap and Haiti mentionned as examples.

http://www.arte.tv/de/Programm/244,broadcastingNum=1350129,day=4,week=24,year=2012.html

http://ddc.arte.tv/emission/cartographie-2-0

Many recent articles in the media are speculating about the role of Microsoft boosting OSM vs Google. One of the facts reported is saying that “Microsoft donated map data to the project”. I’ve seen this first in the NYT http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/20/technology/many-sites-chart-a-new-course-as-google-expands-fees.html?_r=1

(and blindly repeated in other mediums like PCWorld : http://www.pcworld.com/article/252649/microsofts_secret_weapon_against_google_maps_open_source.html

I’m just wondering if Bing aerial imagery can be considered as “map data”. It needs a considerable amount of work to be converted to vector data and attributs, the real value of OSM “map data”. It is just very irritating.

Pour renouer avec une vieille tradition d'OSM et en constatant la
persistence du désaccord sur la traduction du mot "way" (souvent
traduit par 'chemin' dans le wiki mais par 'ligne' dans le Floss
Manual OpenStreetMap (http://fr.flossmanuals.net/openstreetmap/index)
par exemple), j'ai ouvert un sondage en ligne ici:

http://www.doodle.com/9fyk54ski6zfhb76

où vous pourrez indiquer votre préférence. Attention, on ne parle pas
de la traduction d'un mot anglais en général mais bien de cet objet
qu'on désigne comme tel dans le contexte d'OSM. J'espère qu'un
consensus large (à défaut, une tendance) pourra se dégager suite à ce
sondage et que nous pourrons rendre notre documentation plus
cohérente.
La liste est directement inspirée du wiki
osm.wiki/FR:D%C3%A9bat_Traduction#Way sauf
pour le terme "voyette" que j'estime trop "exotique" (désolé pour
l'auteur de cette proposition, j'espère qu'il ne m'en voudra pas).

As mentionned e.g. in this article: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/internet/france-finds-google-maps-guilty-of-unfair-competition-asks-to-pay-660000-in-damages/articleshow/11715378.cms

a French commercial court ordered Google to pay 500K€ in damages and interest to a small cartographic company who complained about the unfair competition.
A Google France spokesman said ""We remain convinced that a free high-quality mapping tool is beneficial for both Internet users and websites.".

GM "free", really ?

And what about OSM ? Is there a risk that in some days in the future, OSM will be guilty for the same reasons, offering for free what commercial companies are offering for a fee ?

And after Paris, they also adopt the licence ODbl for the released 31 different datasets !

More about this in the wiki:

osm.wiki/Toulouse/GrandToulouseData

The public data portal (in French):

http://data.grandtoulouse.fr/