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164104203 viru(n) 4 Méint

Hi, this section is signed as M1 throughout. Not sure where you're getting the fact that this is the A1.

163505999 viru(n) 5 Méint

I didn't change Nabiac and Bulahdelah was built to motorway standards (the bit you're referring to isn't part of the bypass) – but as per that discussion I linked earlier it's been a long-standing practice to sign freeway-like dual carriageways in NSW as motorways for the good part of 18 years now and this change directly goes against it, but I'm okay waiting to see if this section ever gets upgraded to M1.

However, in the meantime, please keep Taree, Kew, Raymond Tce, Bulahdelah, and Karuah as-is as these are uncontroversially motorways.

163505999 viru(n) 5 Méint

This change directly goes against osm.wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads#Road_Hierarchy and what was agreed upon at osm.wiki/Talk:Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Archive_1#Hume_Highway – at the very least I'm reverting the motorway-grade bypasses.

159258664 viru(n) 7 Méint

it's probably just me misremembering, but I thought the signs said 49 "to Wide Bay Hwy", not "to 49 Wide Bay Hwy"?

159258664 viru(n) 7 Méint

Hi, about "no current number assigned to Old Bruce Highway"; I was in Gympie last month and this short section of road seemed to have 49s on it (at least when headed southbound).

158837332 viru(n) 8 Méint

Hi, this section was categorized as a motorway as per osm.wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads, even if it's a very short section.

157285970 viru(n) 10 Méint

A tad late to the discussion but IMO trunk is also a better classification than motorway (which it's not).

157696646 viru(n) 10 Méint

Oh whoops – cheers for fixing them haha :-).

157653189 viru(n) 10 Méint

should clarify that I meant it is *not* a tourist railway in the typical sense

156603620 viru(n) 10 Méint

Since when was this section of the Parkes Way a motorway?

153734097 virun ongeféier 1 Joer

Done – see osm.org/changeset/154041855.

153776297 virun ongeféier 1 Joer

I've always been under the impression that simple facts don't meet the threshold for originality, but if I am mistaken, do feel free to revert.

153734097 virun ongeféier 1 Joer

Street numbers are mostly based on ground observations. I've only included the street numbers that I can definitively confirm.

152538371 virun ongeféier 1 Joer

Ah, that makes sense – I guess that's the best we have for now (I'm sure there'll be better sources closer to the opening date).

152538371 virun ongeféier 1 Joer

Hi, are you sure that the track speeds are 80 km/h? Often lines will have a higher track speed, even if they're operationally limited to 80 km/h.

143238055 viru méi wéi 1 Joer

There was a long discussion on Wikipedia on this issue, before finally coming to the conclusion that it was a rapid-transit route. Ultimately, OSM isn't Wikipedia, OSM's policy on this per osm.wiki/OpenRailwayMap/Tagging is "Underground railway in larger cities, powered mostly by third rail. It has its own vehicles and signal system. Sometimes it also comes to the surface or is on an aerial causeway for a segment. Do not map ordinary railway, which goes partially underground, with this tag! (Instead, use layer=-1 or a "deeper" negative value and tunnel=yes). Subway/Metro is usually considered 'heavy rail' and is always distinct from 'light rail.'"

Seems to fulfill all the points listed on that page.

133342301 viru méi wéi 2 Joer

Hi, why was this changed from motorway to trunk? As per the osm.wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads, this road is divided, has 2+ lanes in each direction, has a speed limit of 100 km/h, and no traffic lights.

131083474 viru méi wéi 2 Joer

Agreed – while the road is technically a motorway (controlled access and two lanes each way), unlike this user's northern Memorial Drive change (which barely makes it per osm.wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads), the speed limit is way lower than the rest of the POB Mwy.

130202973 viru méi wéi 2 Joer

I might be comparing this with the Anzac and Harbour Bridges in Sydney, but both have low speed limits (60km/h and 70 km/h) and the latter also has a tidal flow system, but are considered freeways. Feel free to revert my edit if you disagree, tho.

128842737 viru méi wéi 2 Joer

My apologies. I thought that simple map designs did not pass the threshold for originality, but otherwise please feel free to revert my change.

In saying that, I did find https://roads-waterways.transport.nsw.gov.au/projects/01documents/m12-motorway/m12-motorway-community-update-2022-08.pdf, which also seemed to indicate that the M12 will be continuing south of Elizabeth Drive, but it too is likely copyrighted.