Map hiking route relation 'properly' and get to fix 44 issues on just a part of the way. Added road bridges where observed to cross canals.

Hi,

As introduction I'm helping a mapper cleaning up so called 'duplicate edges', that is ways mapped on top of ways which is causing major navigator software issues in amongst. In this case Percorso Naturalistico "Le Cese" was about 95 percent put on top of other roads and tracks, even where track was supoosed to be mapped instread your Percorso Naturalistico "Le Cese" was mapped making it impossible for farmer to navigate from e.g. Bologna to home simply because ways were tagged as motor_vehicle no.

I've gone ahead and removed any duplicate ways and transferred the route to a hiking relation and closed a gap at the Piazzale Europe in the route.

Please check the route and inform me if there's any corrections, enhancements needed.

Cheers

Link to route relation: osm.org/relation/14466885

trad:

Ciao,

Come introduzione sto aiutando un mappatore a ripulire i cosiddetti "bordi duplicati", ovvero modi mappati in cima a modi che stanno causando gravi problemi al software del navigatore nel mezzo. In questo caso il Percorso Naturalistico "Le Cese" è stato collocato per circa il 95% sopra altre strade e binari, anche dove si supponeva che il percorso fosse mappato all'interno del proprio Percorso Naturalistico "Le Cese" rendendo impossibile per l'agricoltore la navigazione ad es. Bologna a casa semplicemente perché le vie erano contrassegnate come autoveicolo n.

Sono andato avanti e ho rimosso eventuali percorsi duplicati e trasferito il percorso a una relazione escursionistica e ho colmato una lacuna al Piazzale Europa nel percorso.

Si prega di controllare il percorso e di informarmi se ci sono correzioni o miglioramenti necessari.

Saluti

Link da percorse: osm.org/relation/14466885

Hi,

As introduction I'm helping a mapper cleaning up so called 'duplicate edges', that is ways mapped on top of ways which is causing major navigator software issues in amongst. In this case Percorso Naturalistico "Le Cese" was about 95 percent put on top of other roads and tracks, even where track was supoosed to be mapped instread your Percorso Naturalistico "Le Cese" was mapped making it impossible for farmer to navigate from e.g. Bologna to home simply because ways were tagged as motor_vehicle no.

I've gone ahead and removed any duplicate ways and transferred the route to a hiking relation and closed a gap at the Piazzale Europe in the route.

Please check the route and inform me if there's any corrections, enhancements needed.

Cheers

Link to route relation: osm.org/relation/14466885

trad:

Ciao,

Come introduzione sto aiutando un mappatore a ripulire i cosiddetti "bordi duplicati", ovvero modi mappati in cima a modi che stanno causando gravi problemi al software del navigatore nel mezzo. In questo caso il Percorso Naturalistico "Le Cese" è stato collocato per circa il 95% sopra altre strade e binari, anche dove si supponeva che il percorso fosse mappato all'interno del proprio Percorso Naturalistico "Le Cese" rendendo impossibile per l'agricoltore la navigazione ad es. Bologna a casa semplicemente perché le vie erano contrassegnate come autoveicolo n.

Sono andato avanti e ho rimosso eventuali percorsi duplicati e trasferito il percorso a una relazione escursionistica e ho colmato una lacuna al Piazzale Europa nel percorso.

Si prega di controllare il percorso e di informarmi se ci sono correzioni o miglioramenti necessari.

Saluti

Link da percorse: osm.org/relation/14466885

Tell me abour it, someone mapped a whole string of pedestrian ways on top of track, another mtb track top of roads. A historic hike route mapped as track on top of roads and ways. I try to clean them up when Osmose tags me as, "mistake you touched this object, may not be your fault, but this item has a preblem xyz to fix"

Ill look at your PM, now basking under trrees after an 800slm change in elevation 🤗

Thank for clearing. Normally I rely on the OSMI summary that Pascal Neis generates of daily issues I've left behind. Unfortunately the report has been broken since 2 weeks, so I use the Inspector map to look around, but I hardly do in my own back garden :O))). Yesterday fixed a large forest up north no longer rendering, version 354 or so, and nobody notices it disappeared from the 1km and greater zoom.

Happy Ferragosto (oh wait, German interface, it's the national holiday of national holidays here in Italy.)

ciao

Hi Giorgio

You do a lot, great stamina, you also leave unresolved errors. I just fixed half a dozen just in this small zone. When you save an edit set, open the summary. It will tell if something needs fixing like above a way crossing a way, but not connected (did not fix that one).

There's tools like Inspector and Osmose and Keepright that run analysis, daily or bi-weekly. They highlight if something is wrong/needs review. In this case I fixed unclosed rings, duplicate segments, not connected overlaying nodes (duplicate node). Some will prevent an error to render the area.

cheers

PS You can see in the Neis report how many edits you did in a day https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?Giovanni%20Forgione . The Change set comment box is for the purpose of describing what you did so reviewers can judge if they need to drill in for any issues.

Ciao Giorgio

Fai molto, grande resistenza, lasci anche errori irrisolti. Ne ho appena riparati una mezza dozzina proprio in questa piccola zona. Quando salvi un set di modifiche, apri il riepilogo. Dirà se qualcosa deve essere riparato come sopra una strada che attraversa una strada, ma non è collegato (non l'ha risolto). Ci sono strumenti come Inspector e Osmose e Keepright che eseguono analisi. Evidenziano se qualcosa non va/ha bisogno di una revisione. In questo caso ho corretto anelli non chiusi, segmenti duplicati, nodi sovrapposti non collegati (nodo duplicato). Alcuni impediranno un errore di rendering.

Saluti

PS Puoi vedere nel rapporto Neis quante modifiche hai fatto in un giorno https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?Giovanni%20Forgione . La casella di commento del set di modifiche ha lo scopo di descrivere ciò che hai fatto in modo che i revisori possano giudicare se hanno bisogno di approfondire eventuali problemi.

Great, the forest renders again.

Hi,

As you keep creating 'island-all' pathways, this wiki explaining the issue.

osm.wiki/OSM_Inspector/Views/Routing

All path ways must connect back to the global highway network. footpaths and steps are too part of that network. Especially objects like squares and pedestrian areas are none routable as well. Ways, however imaginary must be mapped across to wherever the person would walk, the next sidewalk or parking aisle e.g.

Another classic is appending ways that allow e.g. motor vehicles, when the earlier part in the way is tagged as not allowed. Creates an island-car situation.

cheers

The wiki link v.v 'island all' and other disconnect issues: osm.wiki/OSM_Inspector/Views/Routing

Areas are no routable elements, paths, ways must be mapped across however imaginary to get from point A to point B on planet earth.

Unknown and mix of imagery with different offsets used in this area makes fitting elements hard. Please check past used for area consistency.

Hi,

alt_name and name are same, duly removed. No duplicates in name, alt_name, old_name, nat_name etc.

ALSO, names of percorsi belong on track, not on farmland, scrub wood or other area edges.

BETTER is to create a percorso relation and tag all parts of the route in the relation. Then you only need to enter the name 1 time and updating becomes very easy.

ciao

traduzione

alt_name e name sono sam, debitamente rimossi.

INOLTRE, i nomi dei percorsi appartengono a binari, non a terreni agricoli, boscaglia o altri margini dell'area.

MEGLIO è creare una relazione di percorso e contrassegnare tutte le parti del percorso nella relazione. Quindi devi solo inserire il nome 1 volta e l'aggiornamento diventa molto semplice.

Ciao

Because OSM draws a 'bound box' from the most furthest apart nodes edited, here Canada, Roumania and somewhere in Africa, Solletea. Every mapper in that bound box gets to see these edits in their local edit history regardless if there was an edit in their regular mapping area. FOR DAYS.

This wiki explains it much better than I can on Geographical area, keedp it local: osm.wiki/Changeset

Mama may be proud, but then mamas are hardly unbiased towards sons.

Mama must have told you that a long time ago, lest she's with you on vacation. ;P)

PS Doing this in a single half globe covering edit is sort of 'Not Done'. And mail boxes are patient ;o)

ciao

that's 4 times same flag in Petri. Why add pedestrian area to square?

square and pedestrian area on one item does not fly in QA.

In fact, I'm discovering you've create way overlaps, noting that roundabouts get the road rating of the highest level way direct connecting i.e. it should have been tagged as tertiary.

Me having fixed 2 bus routes, there's sure to show half a dozen more tomorrow on my 'touched' list since the roundabout was not circular (right click on a round item and select the ring to make something round.

TBC

Start small in a town like Rome with all the complex inter-relations or you risk to break a lot in a single action.

cheers-

In doing so, you broke bus routes that cross the roundabout connecting to Via Giovanni Kobler: Know what you do, and do what you know.

Hi,

you mapped a tagless line in this CS
osm.org/way/909745647
Osmose reports: "Missing tag or role on way 909745647"

You know best what it's supposed to do

ciao

Absent your urgent response, this erroneous change immediately affected vehicle routing, made the change in CS osm.org/changeset/124593459
If you tell me where the signs of 1.9 meters and 1.8 are we can revisit.
Be careful with adding traffic affecting entries in StreetComplete, be absolutely sure, enter data while surveying on site.

cheers

In assenza della tua risposta urgente, questa modifica errata ha immediatamente influito sul percorso del veicolo, ha apportato la modifica in CS osm.org/changeset/124593459
Se mi dici dove sono i segni di 1,9 metri e 1,8 possiamo rivisitare.
Fai attenzione con l'aggiunta di voci che influiscono sul traffico in StreetComplete, assicurati di inserire i dati durante il rilevamento in loco.

Saluti

Hi,

where did you get 1.9 respectively 1.8 maxheight from... a sign? Can you tell me where those signs area positioned?
I know that road very well, passed it again yesterday and the passage is more like 10 meters passing below the A25.

ciao