I am also struggling with JOSM/WMS, having followed the webkit installation on my Mac, and tried tweeking in various ways. It is only some sources i.e. Yahoo that fails on me, while others i.e. Landsat works fine. After some back and forth I still haven't managed Yahoo in JOSM, though Yahoo coverage where I live is somewhat bad, but I can do traces other places in Potlatch.

Nice to see Kenya going forward on OSM, it is long time since I visited Kenya, and it would be nice to take an OSM Safari to the places I visited back then. Heard the unrests around last election hit hard on some of those places.

not ecactly wer-ist, it is possible to exclude the data that is not compatible (i.e. from users who doesn't accept) the new license. If all the active mappers donates its contributions to PD as I have done, than it shouldn't be any problems except for some imports that have been done from cc-by-sa, in those cases, contact with the data sources can be made and request it to be liberated for PD, either in complete, or only for OSM. I guess if such is done, we will only lose marginal data. All the major bulk imports I know of is already PD.

De nada gouki - also forgot to mention, my script backed up the GPX track and posted it to OSM, without the need for me to do it..... the more automated, the better.

If you can find it documented that the data is PD, than why not? If such documentation is difficult to obtain, or the source of it is uncertain/unfamiliar, than leave it.

It is always possible to make some sort of search/n/replace script, depending on your OS. I had a problem with the program that imported my GPX broke the code, I had to do search/n/replace to get the right time format, remove garbage tags, changing , to . in the possitions, and general cleaning of the code to make it more human readable. My script was based on sed and was running flawlessly under Mac, and most likely also would in Linux. Search the net around for scripting and command line text manipulation tools for your operating system.

This constantly happens, maybe it should be posted (on SEVERAL locations) that Yahoo imagery might not be up to date, and only used as a reference if traces and roads are in the area. I never move objects to fit with Yahoo, only add objects (and brush up objects if I know the area myself). Yahoo have allowed me to draw roads in remote locations where it is highly unlikely any mappers goes in the near future.

Interesting problem, same I did a comparison of google maps with satelite images and OSM in my area, the google maps are mainly TeleAtlas (TomTom), and that is plainly wrong. In other words, OSM give you a safer and correct route even though much data still is missing, damn I am mapping the area all alone.

IMO postal codes should be marked on the map (though not rendered in an ordinary map). They should also be marked with boundaries, not boundary=administrative, but some other form as it represent a practical division of a distribution system, and not different administrations. For example, in Norway, there are only two levels of administration in the postal system, one national and one regional, though there are several postal codes within the area of each regional postal administration.

IMO postal code relations and administrial boundary relations should not be combined, even if they follow the same line. Though they should be tagged differently, so that renderers does not confuse them.

Google Maps does not let you edit any country in the world for some reason. I just had a look, and Brazil where I am mapping is closed for contributors for some reason I don't know. There are also no evidence of data added in the state of Espirito Santo (didn't check the rest of Brazil), so I would guess that Google Maps is useless in Brazil. But still, it is really hard for the Brazilian community to recruit new mappers. The community have grown quite some the last few months, but there are still a lot to do, and place for more mappers. Easy usable tools could probably benefit more for recruiting as more people will see the benefit.

If I could program I would make a map/routing program for Blackberry Curve (the phone I am about to buy)

I am myself looking for a new GPS, but for other reasons. Basically I need one that can be permanently installed in my car with map functionality and an easy way to update maps and extract tracks. My Garmin eTrex yellow is handy, but falls short on many points, such as battery life, track resolution, no maps, etc.

Checking out warper, have converted a few PDFs to tiff and rectified them. I will look into recifying more and use them as WMS background in JOSM to correct some roads and to add a few other. Missing only a few houndred meters in Centro, I will also get some more from a few other suburbs where I probably will not get to survey in the near future

akuckartz, I hope those who formated the system entered a valid register key, though that is not common in Brazil.

pauliusz, I know how to get the information about what is installed, and how to find out experiences with it in Linux. That is how I got the wlan card working, using NDISWRAPPER

agallaher, I will take a look at WUBI, had plans about testing with Linux on a Stick, found a page about installing Ubuntu on a pendrive, that give me the ability to test the solution without formating the windows. i.e. no need to reformat it and install everything in case I cannot get it working in Linux.

Unfortunately GPS Utility is only available for Windows, which makes it completely useless (or f***in expensive) to use. I need something that works in Mac or Linux as that is the two platforms I have available.

At least lable which are 24h and which have opening hours.

The Brazilian tracks arn't one the map as far as I know. There is one in Caghonas near Sao Paulo (currently used), one in Brasilia (not F1 any more) and one Japaraguai in Rio de Janeiro (named Airton Senna, used to be F1?). They should be visible on air photos, and Yahoo coverage for those areas should be good.

My goal is to survive the traffic in Brazil without any harm to my family, friends, or any other surrounding me. I try to avoid known dangerous roads when I drive, and since my wife still are inexperienced, I never let her go on long trips alone, and take over the wheel on the most dangerous roads.

My vote noted, a dialog with google is a good start, I believe google have the posibility to set up a sperate WMS API for us where they can filter out sources with copyrights we cannot use (all US official sources as i.e. NASA is already public domain). Without a dialog with Google we get nowhere.

According to my brother who works for Google, reffering to their maps for streetnames, placenames and such comes under derrived works, and is supported in the google copyright.

I agree that changing roads because they do not fit with the yahoo images is bad, especially if the yahoo images are old and the shape of the road indicates a rebuild of the road.

GPX tracks are very good and usefull, though there should be a way to filter the age of each trackpoint. At the moment all uploaded trackpoints can be downloaded, and this can make areas very crawded. Especially if there have been road reconstructions or if the area suffers from urban canyon effects.

IMO Users should also be able to blackspot areas when uploading GPX tracks, so that overcrawding of inaccurate trackpoint around users home areas can be avoided. (I would love to have 250m blackspot on my house)

Congratulations Diogo, lets hope it is easier to reqruite new mappers in SP when all they need to do is correct names and annotations.