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Inspecting Nanaimo, BC while i wait for OSM

correction
"srtm2osm command line for corresponding elevation contour tiles. The tile number of the topo tiles is the tile number for the corresponding map tiles with the leading 6 replaced by 5. Thus, name clashes are avoided."
from http://touren.mospace.de/kachel.html (the IMG tile calculator says that it already exists... just replace the '6' with a '5' and you get the SRTM topo IMG file... cool.

Cycle map shortcoming

Because part of the Route Verte is also part of the Trans Canada Trail, it would be best to have it regional. However, all of the Trans Canada Trail segments can be connected with a relation route, so i think the biggest difference is visual, for when your looking at the cyclemap. .. the Regional Route needs to stand out more than the local routes and much more than the smaller connecting paths, but on a further zoom out, (canada wide, the TCT should be shown to the same extent that the Trans Canada Highway, and major highways are shown. (1 line superimposed ontop of the Route Verte Network)
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Similar to in Nova Scotia, how they have announced that the Trans Canada Trail will become more of a Trans Canada Trail (Network of trails), the TCT in Quebec might just become like that. PEI is already like that, (not 1 solid line)
...So it makes it further confusing :)

Maybe that helped? ... maybe not :)

P.S. Canada doesn't have a National Cycle Network... but does have provincial Cycle Networks. The TCT is run provincially (just with a common sticker)

Can anyone help on this delema?

My Students work on a slippy map.

Awesome to hear. This is why we make this map so then it gets used :)
Do you mind if i ask what Class/ Grade level / course this is for?
Its always great to hear about in class use of OpenStreetMap.
Thanks

highway=pedestrian vs. highway=path .. sidewalks vs. paved pedestrian paths

Thanks for all the feedback :)
Cool, sounds like a plan.
Highway=pedestrian is only used for roads which have been converted to pedestrian zones.
And that makes sence.. It assumed that any road which is not a highspeed motorway would allow pedestrians walking on eithor side... Regardless of the surface type.
So only when the path sllightly deviates from the route of the road does it need to be marked.
Cool.

I like how the new version of JOSM has all the options for highway=path :) this makes it much easier to figure out how to make it right.

Fortunatly, i only messed it up on a few spots, so i can fix up that.

Mapping Protection Island, in the Nanaimo Region, BC

Fortunately, the locals do leave the island. (me thinks)
(i'll post some photos to JOSM, thanks :)

Wrong sign on marked cycle way?

I think it would be best to contact the user directly rather than posting here... odds are they might not see it. (View - and select the Data overlay layer and the WAY your referring too) i see your name on the route.
and YES, this is exactly why were all working so hard at making OSM right, as even physical signs are WRONG... not just old paper maps. :)

Ortigas Online is using OSM

Cool :)
Thanks for sharing!
Maybe this could be added to the Image of the Week?

6th post - undergraduate geography dissertation

re: perception of mapping parties (beer afterwords)
You have a point there, perhaps advertising the mapping party in a different light would have an impact. When (I will soon) post a mapping party, i want to post it on craigslist, and other local community sites. I would like to see GeoCachers help out by sharing there tracks. (as well as bmx mountain bikes and motercycles) (might not be interested in the naming of trails, roads. But their tracks are valuable). And they would provide inside on how it works as a different opinion.
Inviting outdoor clubs to be involved.. who are taking the trails anyay. Scouts is an example of a group, and geography students taking field trips.
So in summation, 2 types of mapping parties. 1 for the social and 1 for the technical details. But we could have a 3rd which is a mix. Afterall, GPS Users are anyone who wants to read a digital mobile map.

re: mixing of age
I think i covered it. Hosting or creating a "(local area) OpenSource Map Making Club" says the same thing... but would open the doors wider for anyone to join. ... 'cause it's not necessarily "fun" as in "excitement" but "fun" as i the way doing a crossword, or gigsaw puzzle is "enlightening". ... much different than the term "party". 'Cause yes. .. I dont think it's really a "party" in the creative sense.

IMO

Fifth post - undergraduate geography dissertation

From my experience so far. It seems that the difference between; say, geocachers, and OpenstreetMappers. .. i would think that Mappers are more right brained, and GeoCachers would be more Left-brained. .. Technical vs. creative.
For me, i dont understand the point of GeoCaching, as once i collected all the POI's, i can see it on a map.... so there is no need to physically find it. .. however going out and physically finding those trails/roads that aren't yet mapped, IS a challenge, and a fun competition between users. .. AND correcting the data is also fun (provided we play by the rules, and contact those other users to get input) ... just like the talk page for Wikipedia.

So I would agree with the previous post that yes, there is very little impact for OSM. And would want to add the point about those who are more technical oriented would be drawn to OpenStreetMap, becuause of its very nature.

.. OpenStreetMap is essentially a world-wide race to see how fast and accuratly we can map the world.

Engineers, Architects, survayers... any industry which involves looking at maps, and drawings, seems to be the technical type.

IMO, i would attend mapping parties, more for the technical networking, and learning from other (Gadget Nerds), most of which get excited about the latest and greatest new technology, and learning how it works collaboratively with other technology. ... probably those Ibuntu users (think that's where it started from). ... I have an interest in this because of my work with AutoDesk, AutoCAD.
IMO :)

Canada hols gpx-ing (Alberta:Calgary, Lethbridge, Olds)

Awesome, i look forward to seeing the results. What are is it you were working on? .. i see the map shown to Calgary, so not sure what area your referring to.
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I might recommend for future trips to keep the device off until you get to say.. the main road where you want to start recording. then when your done your day or travel, remember to turn off the device before you head home. This way your home is not shown, and just shows a vague area.
I use mapsource for when i need to trim the tracks, if needed more loading it to OSM.

Im thinking of getting a new GPS. Would you recommend this device?

Sam
Across Canada Trails

Found another OSM article

Thanks for sharing :)

Thats One small track for man... many waypoints for mankind

Thanks :)
1st part: I dont know :) ... just saying that having the base map switched from Navteq road map to openstreetmap will be awsome.. so the 1st part is that wikiloc is about showing overall routes.. and not defining what the roads that were taken are. .. just shows WHERE the roads are. .. but not necessarily from origional tracks. (any KML can be added). so switching the base map, will help . ... also trying to get other communities who currently use Google maps to switch out. ... hopefully :) Maybe hinting at other communities to start using OSM slippy map, would help the push for it?? (Bikely.com does the same & Everytrail.com too)

Ya, POI's.. would be great if everyone keeps on collecting the POI from OSM, then posting them onto POI collecting sites. .. as well as posting to GE community. ... I think i know how todo that with a planet dump download, then extract the similar POI. .. unless the POI is localized, then it would be a BBox.

For my Canada map... i'd like to switch out all the poi i included so then it all comes from OSM, so can actually print it CC-SA. (i've added that to my todo list)

Is there a list out there of all the poi collecting being done from OSM tags?
maybe.

Thanks for the comment :)
Sam

Mapping Tofino... Garmin Map Points

thanks :) do you know what the tag for description is? So it shows under the name on the garmin?

I-17

Im trying to grasp the concept of using imported data. (as GeoBase isnt yet imported) which contains roads and road names of canada) .. is this Tiger Data imported as a JOSM layer? where you can go in and view the OSM stuff on another layer, then flip back (view/hide) the Tiger data to see where is missing, and what is more accurate?

Curious,
Sam

more mount doug (saanich, BC) mapping

spoke too soon, i just checked the discussion.. and it seems that its almost subjective. .. leading me to go in and correct the Canadian page so it makes more sense. The tracktype=grades 1-5 are confusing. (not confusing for me, but yes for others) .. so i'll need to rework it. .. most likely showing usage.. and stating weather or not bicyles can use the it. .. generally speaking foot travelers go anywhere bikes go... and stick to the far right when on any surface. .. the purpose is showing if moter vehicles are aloud, horseback, ATV's, Quads, moter bikes.

My routing is generally geared towards staying with the same surface type.. and having it consistent all the way though.. imagining i was on that type of bike or human power, and what surface i would like, when there are choices.

Comments?

A little posting from co. Claire ireland and Princeton, BC

(Unfortunately i dont know Gaelic)
An open thought = Wondering if it is or should be International OSM standard to list on the attributes of the point where it shows the name of the the area, all the different spellings of the name from different languages. .. this way, it gets all directed to the same point on the map.?

5 tracks loaded and waiting

Ok.. sounds good. Thanks for the clarification.
So... Im just now looking at my raw track data that i just uploaded .. and is on my list to upload once the others are loaded.
Ie. Princeton, BC. I see that there are lots of points, and when i add in the lines between them, only for a few areas, its possible to recognize that it is a road / trail.

Its probably best to for now just leave those tracks and keep uploading the rest of the 'to be added' file to OSM (3 at a time) and concentrate on the map making where i am physically here.

This way, as i am planning on physically going across the country, if others already are mapping placed that i indent togo to, i already helped them out just by posting the raw tracks.

Then later, what I can do is draw in those roads and tag it as 'FIXME', but only to the visually most obvious roads/trails (on JOSM or Potlatch), as going any deeper would also not only infringe copyright... but increase the chances that the lines drawn were drawn with too much wrong detail. .. AND cause extra work for the person who comes along later to fix.

Appreciate the feedback,

:)

Sidney, BC Seaside Route

Thanks,
I went ahead and removed my underlay gps tracks. .. however it would probably be best to have those, and just not set to public. .
I added a pier... but i need to look up the name of the pier, and i think the appropriate location for that point is the middle of the pier. .. as so it wont be confused with something on the shore (which happens to be a eagle perch pole)
.. and yes, ill be looking deeper into the help about it. ...
and wow, this site is amazing!
I see someone is working on the road and street names.... iĺl check the local area map, and see where the ends of the trail meet the road. ..
As thats the connection to get back to the lochside trail.

Thanks for the help,
Sam

Sidney, BC Seaside Route

I just removed it. .. hopefully itll go.
Im using the Asus EEE PC, and maybe cant see the full map screen, as there probably is options to make it public. ...
As i dont know if i need to edit the track before i upload or is tracing like i did ok? ... hummm

Trying this out

I hope my latest story post helps.
I don't know how to upload my track to your site. .. are these linked?
I have to check if my route was loaded.
Great to hear from people.
Sam