Message privé reçu de l'utilisateur (en anglais ci-dessous)
«
Daniel,

je vous prie de m'excuser. Étant donné que vous avez apporté tant de contributions en Irlande, je suppose que votre langue principale est l'anglais. (Mais cela serait plus clair si la langue était indiquée sur nos profils OSM.)

Je m'y suis rendu : sur le menu, il était indiqué que le restaurant était ouvert de 17 h à 21 h 30. Le propriétaire m'a dit qu'il avait créé la page Google. Plus tard, j'ai vu sur la page Google que le restaurant était ouvert de 18 h à 21 h 30. J'ai donc téléphoné pour vérifier. 18 h est la bonne heure.

- Comme le propriétaire m'avait dit qu'il avait des problèmes avec les mauvais commentaires sur les anciens propriétaires, toujours affichés sur plusieurs sites web, j'ai essayé de l'aider en ajoutant ou en modifiant l'adresse sur quelques sites. Et plus tard, j'ai créé deux liens depuis la page OSM vers PagesJaunes.fr et Google. Mauvaise idée.

Encore une fois, je m'excuse.

Cordialement,
»

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Daniel,

my apologies. As you made so many contributions in Ireland, I suppose your main langage is english. (But it would be most clear if the langage was displayed on our OSM profiles.)

-I went there: on the menu, it was written opened from 17:00 to 21:30 (5pm to 9:30pm). The owner told me he had created the Google page. Latter I saw on the Google page, it was opened from 18:00 to 21:30. So I phoned to check. 18:00 is the good value.

-As the owner had told me he had problems with bad comments about the previous owners, still displayed on several web sites, I tried to help adding or changing the address on a few sites. And later, creating 2 links from the OSM page, to PagesJaunes.fr and to Google. Bad idea.

Again I apologize.

Best regards,
"

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Erreur accidentelle corrigée dans /
Accidental mistake resolved in
osm.org/changeset/169427386

osm.org/relation/19385743

Preferably simple polygons are added as area, not multipolygon, unless not otherwise possible, or prefered by the local community (which it is unlikely to be).
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Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/169424226

Si vous avez inspecté le restaurant sur place (sur le terrain, de près) et que vous utilisez uniquement Google pour le montrer à d'autres personnes afin qu'elles puissent le vérifier, vous ou quelqu'un d'autre pouvez supprimer le lien source vers Google.
Nous pouvons utiliser les données du site web officiel du restaurant, s'il en possède un, pour contribuer à OpenStreetMap, mais uniquement si vous pouvez facilement vous rendre au restaurant pour vérifier ces données.
Notez que les balises source sont redondantes, vous devriez plutôt utiliser la source du changeset lorsque vous téléchargez les modifications dans l'application d'édition, bien que cela puisse encore être utile si le restaurant a récemment ouvert et n'est pas encore visible sur les images de rue, bien sûr.
Vous devez ajouter la balise website pour créer un lien vers le site web officiel s'il en existe un.
Sinon, vous pouvez toujours ajouter les réseaux sociaux avec les balises contact:*, c'est-à-dire contact:facebook, s'il en existe. (non, il n'y a pas de contact:google_maps..)

Si vous avez utilisé les données Google pour contribuer directement à OpenStreetMap, sans vérifier sur le terrain ou au moins en consultant le site web officiel, la modification doit être annulée (refaite) et/ou vous devez effectuer une vérification sur le terrain afin de pouvoir vérifier votre modification et la conserver dans OpenStreetMap.

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If you did survey the restaurant on the ground (on location, from up close), and only use Google to show to others so they can verify it, then you or someone else can remove the source link to Google.
We can use data from the restaurant's official website, if it has one, for contributing to OpenStreetMap, but only if you can easily visit the restaurant to verify this data.
Note, source tags are redundant, you should use the changeset source when uploading the modifications in the editor application instead, though it can still be useful if the restaurant was recently opened and not visible on street level imagery yet, of course.
You should add the website tag to link to the official website if it has one.
Otherwise you can still add the social media with contact:* tags, i.e. contact:facebook, if it has those. (no, there is no contact:google_maps..)

if you used Google data to contribute to OpenStreetMap directly, without verifying by surveying on the ground, or at least by checking official website, then the modification should be reverted (undone) and/or you should survey it on the ground so you can verify your modification and it can be kept in OpenStreetMap.

Salut Mathieu65, (anglais ci-dessous)

As-tu inspecté les lieux sur place ?
osm.wiki/FR:V%C3%A9rifiabilit%C3%A9

N'utilise pas les données Google pour contribuer à OpenStreetMap, s'il te plaît. C'est interdit. Consulte cette page du wiki OSM (en anglais) :
osm.wiki/Google

Si vous avez des questions sur la façon de cartographier, vous pouvez contacter votre communauté (locale) à l'adresse suivante :
https://openstreetmap.community/?map=52.63517,-7.04645&zoom=5.46
ou lancer un fil de discussion sur :
https://community.openstreetmap.org/

Bonne cartographie :-)

Cordialement,

Daniel

Traduit avec deepl.com/translator

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Hey Mathieu65,

Did you survey the location on the ground?
osm.wiki/FR:V%C3%A9rifiabilit%C3%A9

Do not use Google data for contributing to OpenStreetMap, please. It is prohibited. See this OSM Wiki page (in English)
osm.wiki/Google

If you have any questions on how to map, you can contact your (local) community at
https://openstreetmap.community/?map=52.63517,-7.04645&zoom=5.46
or start a thread on
https://community.openstreetmap.org/

Happy mapping :-)

Regards,

Daniel

Hey kenda,

Check out StreetComplete 61.2
https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/releases/tag/v61.2

There are now more quests available for toilets and showers, so you should also be able to check i.e. if the shower next to it still exists (at least, it should ask for it, it hasn't been updated in 9 years..)
osm.org/node/4325019892
(of course many toilets and showers are usually permanent.)

Regards,

Daniel

osm.org/node/8739963966
Bus stop currently has route ref KK2 but is (only) part of relation for 838. Should it be (also) part of KK2 sub-relation, or is one of these inaccurate?

Hey John,

Did you survey each defibrillator individually, on the ground, and manually added them; or
did you (semi-)automatically import/copy-paste them from elsewhere (websites, articles, files, etc.); or
were they supplied by yourself (from files/website/... which you own) / by someone else requesting to add them to OpenStreetMap (from files/website/... which they own)?

If you surveyed them, it looks good. Just make sure to carefully add the details when you are doing this many of them. You can easily make typos or copy-paste mistakes.

Otherwise, please adhere to the import guidelines
osm.wiki/Import/Guidelines
and Automated Edits code of conduct
osm.wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct

I assume it is with good intent, of course; and you have been editing for longer without negative feedback as far as I can see.
https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=457933

Regardless, this is a changeset from two years ago, so this comment is a bit late.

Your changes visualised
https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=132416773

Regards,

Daniel

second URL should be
https://www.corko.net/news/autumn-league-2-garretstown-wood-ballinspittle-tuesday-september-6th-results-and-report

Best recent picture is likely this one
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1199185162220307&set=a.103290421809792
(for reference only, not for use on OSM without explicit permission.)

I assume you mean the corner pillar.
Fyi on Mapillary 2024 it wraps around the corner, so I would map it as such (single building part).

There are signs outside the entrance but it is too dark even if I increase the brightness on the Panoramax website itself. There might be a cabinet below the signs?

https://api.panoramax.xyz/#pic=c6e6096e-ca31-44f9-afd9-54632de2ea19&focus=pic

Hey Tobiemh,

Thank you for contributing to OpenStreetMap!

Could you please tell me if it is the same or a different defibrillator than the one "left of the reception desk" at
osm.org/node/10230966127

The one you mapped mentions it is outdoor, but that could have been added by mistake (no worries, it can happen). It is useful to describe exactly where the defibrillator is located (level, room, facility, wall/desk/...), if possible.
(level is additionally described by 'level' tag)

There is currently no street level imagery of the souterrain (?) in front of the hotel, only outside of the ground floor.
https://api.panoramax.xyz/#pic=35fff52b-d737-4afc-839e-bdb05b032be7&focus=pic

If you are willing, you can take a picture (preferably of both, if they are different) and upload it to one of the following applications, where you can also add more information.
(the first one you are using already)
- [OpenAEDMap](https://openaedmap.org/nl/#map=19/52.6497559/-7.25309&node_id=12964102501) (Web, Android, iOS);
Photo uploaded to and permanently hosted on their own server only.
- [MapComplete](https://mapcomplete.org/aed?z=18.6&lat=52.649820742620705&lon=-7.252925834794496#node/12964102501) (Web, mobile web);
Photo uploaded to and permanently hosted on [Panoramax](https://panoramax.fr/).
- [StreetComplete](https://streetcomplete.app/) (Android, currently [being ported to iOS](https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/5421));
Photo uploaded to and hosted on their own server, only temporarily until limited time after note is closed.
(which means it can not be used at later time to verify details anymore..)
You will have to look for the Defibrillator Location quest (or other quest at the same exact position), while for adding a photo or other details they have their own [Notes features](osm.wiki/StreetComplete#Additional_Features).

Mentioned applications host photos using an open license (or are otherwise compatible), allowing other contributors to use them for OpenStreetMap.

If you only want to add more information, you can also do this directly in the "iD editor" (Click on "Edit" on osm.org), or by [opening a note](osm.wiki/Notes#Using_notes) on osm.org.

If you have any questions on how to map, you can contact your (local) community at
https://openstreetmap.community/?map=52.63517,-7.04645&zoom=5.46
or start a thread on
https://community.openstreetmap.org/

Happy mapping :-)

Regards,

Daniel

PS: sorry if links with display text in this message are not correctly shown.

Now visible on Mapilio 2024-05-19.
Added details in
osm.org/changeset/167877756

Hey enable_15,

This is an object which was surveyed (not added from aerial imagery) by a user who likes to add additional detail. This might be correct (solely inaccurate) data, though it is not always flawless (first part can be checked by looking at object history, second part you would need to know the mappers of course, third part some tagging experience is useful)
It is likely they added 'unknown' because it is not signed on this specific object (numerous old sewer vents have their manufacturer signed, modern ones do less/not)
It might be better replaced with manufacturer:signed=no .
Understandably, contributors do not always take a (permanent, compatibly licensed) picture, so it is okay if this is hard to verify for you.
You can always ask the user in the changeset where they added the tag if you are unsure.

I would suggest starting with simple mapping for your first changes, not jumping into challenges and automated edits straight away.
Generally, you should start with small changes and keep them local
osm.wiki/Changeset#Geographical_size_of_changesets
(here: size is proverbially speaking, this specific changeset's size (single object) is fine.)
Otherwise, make sure you check each object manually and properly research, document and communicate your changes.

See also
- osm.wiki/Good_practice#Don't_remove_tags_that_you_don't_understand
- osm.wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct
(includes 'semi-'automated changes)

If you need help mapping, you can contact your (local) community at
https://openstreetmap.community/
or start a thread at
https://openstreetmap.community/

Regards,

Daniel

Replaced note with fixme.
osm.org/changeset/167583006

Changed to vacant shop with lifecycle
osm.org/changeset/167581189

changes visualised
https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=167581189
(change itself might not show yet)

osm.org/way/531503333/history
- It looks like pit/quarry, not ringfort.
- It is not on HEV or NLS maps
- It is in Loughill, not Ballyoskill like
osm.org/way/531503330

(I am aware this was one of your first changesets)

Regards,

Daniel

Hey ViktoriaU,

Thank you for contributing to OpenStreetMap.

Make sure you follow the guidelines on adding names, especially abbreviated ones.
osm.wiki/Names
(others you added are abbreviated, but should likely not be.)

For other useful tips, see
osm.wiki/Good_practice

Also, are your changes also part of an [organised effort](osm.wiki/Organised_Editing) for 'walking data accuracy'? (just curious, eventhough it seems you are on your own)

If you have any questions about how to contribute, you can contact the (local) community at
https://openstreetmap.community/?map=52.35708,-7.70490&zoom=9
or open a thread on the forums
https://community.openstreetmap.org/

Regards,

Daniel

See also
osm.org/note/4773725

Hey GOduori,

Do not reclassify highways without proper reason, please.

This road is unlikely to be a secondary road.
- It only connects two secondary roads (and minor/private roads), not directly i.e. two residential areas.
- It was previously classified as 'unclassified', which in OpenStreetMap (OSM)-terms means
'minor road', see
osm.wiki/Tag:highway%3Dunclassified
Other roads in this area are also minor or tertiary, depending on their restrictions.
- It goes through a park, which might indicate restrictions / ownership.
- It is gated on both sides, which might indicate a possible physical barrier and restrictions / ownership.

It is not even possibly through-road.
Go to 'Edit' (this is the editor called 'iD'), and in the right sidebar click on 'Data Layers', scroll down to 'Photo Overlays'(street-level imagery) and choose Mapillary.
(there is a 'Date range' slider below)
- Destinations signed are minor; park, zoo..
(there is not clear image of all signs)
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=259616369186816&focus=photo
- It is signed as prohibiting 'commercial vehicles'.
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1762891911107468&focus=photo
- The maxspeed is 30 km/h
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1323198022270691&focus=photo
- Further down it is one-way single lane road
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1186875451742658&focus=photo
- then becomes a 'No through traffic' / 'cul de sac'
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=142607761165803&focus=photo
- which ends at row of bollards at both ends
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=795899111312268&focus=photo
(at this way segment
osm.org/way/1037781266/history ); though image is from 2018.
- Onto Acres road there is a stop sign, so way does not have priority.
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=278653290630379&focus=photo
- Also last segment is one-way road in opposite direction, without priority.
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1480276479182064&focus=photo

From your changeset comment, this change was based solely on getting improper/missing result(s) from a query using overpass.
From your changeset details, it is likely you used only the Bing aerial imagery (which, though it is the best in this area, is also the standard imagery in the iD editor); this is understandable, as you are a relatively new contributor.
However, it seems not based on survey, local knowledge (which may include news article), sources available in the editor or other compatible source (not proprietary/copyright, i.e. not Google Maps), nor does it explicitly mention a proper reason for reclassifying these highways in the changeset comment.

Incorrect result by such applications is usually an error in the query, or alternatively application, not directly in the map data.

Changing map data in such way is considered 'Mapping for external application' and is prohibited by OSM guidelines;
Changing map data (usually incorrectly) for application (i.e. renderer, browser, router, validator etc.) to return results solely for personal (sometimes malicious) reasons (i.e. different use / avoiding dev. work, decorative, opiniated/political, etc.). See also
osm.wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer

Make sure to follow the (local) guidelines or concensus on for example tags for highways.
osm.wiki/United_Kingdom#Guidelines

Be careful when changing highways, especially reclassifications but also roads with relations (i.e. bus routes, turn restrictions). Editing these without prior knowledge, especially with the basic iD editor, might accidentally introduce errors (moving nodes, disordering or breaking relations). It is better to make such advanced changes with more experience and JOSM editor.
osm.wiki/JOSM
(Changes on larger scale should be discussed prior with the (local) community.)

Also, you should provide a proper description and reason of your changes in your changeset comment when saving (preferably for most if not all changesets), so other mappers can understand and validate your changes more easily.
osm.wiki/Good_changeset_comments

For other helpful tips, see
osm.wiki/Good_practice

If you have made any other changes which could be considered similarly incorrect, you should request them to be reverted by contacting the Data Working Group (DWG)
https://osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group#I.27ve_seen_a_problem.3B_what_should_I_do.3F

If you have any questions regarding how to contribute / map, you can contact your (local) community at
https://openstreetmap.community/
or start a thread on the forums
https://community.openstreetmap.org/

This changeset was fully reverted in
osm.org/changeset/166693897

Your changes visualised
https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=166574769

Regards,

Daniel

Done. Oversight from drawing the full fence.
osm.org/changeset/166493309
(if it had more detail would've merged the other one to keep history)

Regards,

Daniel