docschenk's Comments
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147599171 | пре више од 1 године | highway=footway plus bicycle=yes ist in der praktischen Bedeutung dasselbe wie highway=path, foot=designated, bicycle=yes. Ich finde die Wiki da widersprüchlich. Sobald es gemischte Wege sind soll es path heißen, sind es "eindeutige" Wege, dann plötzlich footway oder cycleway.
In Deutschland werden die Tags tatsächlich mal so und mal so benutzt. |
128655505 | пре више од 2 године | ES geht nicht um Radverkehrsanlagen, sondern um das ausgeschilderte Radroutennetz. |
49833644 | пре око 8 година | Hallo Jan, grundsätzlich ist mir bekannt, dass old_ref der richtige Key wäre. Nur was macht man, wenn der reif öfter wechselt? Der Landkreis Osterode hat mit Göttingen fusioniert, alle Kreisstraßen des Altkreises OHA bekommen jetzt eine 400er Nummer (7 -> 407 usw.). Da dachte ich mir, rief(OHA) wäre eindeutiger. Wir haben im östlichen Altkreis ja noch Straßen, die mal zum Kreis Blankenburg oder Nordhausen/Hohenstein gehört haben ... |
48719757 | пре око 8 година | Hab nur Wälder, Äcker und Straßen überarbeitet. Z.B. die Landstraße zwischen Sonnenstein und Abzweig Holungen ist L 1011, nicht 1012. Aber nichts Grundsätzliches
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46646349 | пре око 8 година | Um etwas aus einem Konzept zu übernehmen, brauche ich wohl keine Genehmigung ...
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43287910 | пре скоро 9 година | und hier ist auch noch nix
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43287910 | пре скоро 9 година | Genauer habe ich es leider auch nicht |
43287910 | пре скоро 9 година | TA vom 21.11.2015
Für beide Kreuzungen sind Verkehrskreisel geplant. Entlang der Straße wird laut Ludolph ein Erdwall aufgeschüttet, um den Lärmschutz für die betroffenen Anwohner zu erreichen. Ebenso muss eine Wildbrücke am Beginn der Umgehung errichtet werden, und für einen Agrarbetrieb sei eine Viehpassage vorgesehen. |
43287910 | пре скоро 9 година | TA vom 28.2.16
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43287910 | пре скоро 9 година | TA vom 6.10.
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40934441 | пре око 9 година | Because IT IS construction at the moment. There even is a deviation for cyclists (about + 10km, about + 500 m elevation). I somehow managed to pass the construction site but had to carry my bike some meters and also couldn't ride for another some 100 meters. |
39554848 | пре око 9 година | Once again me. You may be interested in the German site osm.wiki/DE:Bicycle/Radverkehrsanlagen_kartieren You see, our leading OSMers are not that far away from each other. You will know this: osm.wiki/Da:Cykelstier#Cykelstier_i_Danmark
"På trods af sin "tutorial" tilgang er dokumentet her ikke ment som en vejledning i at udarbejde cykelstier i OSM. Det er ment som en udforskning af forskellige situationer, som forhåbentlig kan medvirke til at kvalificere diskussionen ud over stadiet hvor der udelukkende udveksles synspunkter." Seems that even in Denmark the diskussion has not yet found an end. "Afsluttende bemærkninger" ..."For dem som interesserer sig for at få et visuelt flot kort har tag-metoden den ulempe, at man er afhængig af de programudviklere som udvikler den software der skal "oversætte" fra tags til flotte kort."
And it will be a long way until the developers will have a program that can translate i.e. cycleway=track, distance to road=5m, width:cycleway=2m and so in a good map. Up to that day I will prefer to map separated cycleways as highway=cycleway. I also think that it is very inconsequent to map a footway as separate way but not the cycleway. "Det er dog værd at huske på et af de vigtigste principper i Openstreetmap, nemlig at det er den individuelle mapper's skøn og lokalkendskab som er en af OSM's stærkeste fordele!" The last sentence is the most important. You won't find in Germany a mapper who deletes other mappers work without saving the information. So if one mapper maps highway=cycleway it's no problem that the other one maps cycleway=path to the road. Leave both possibilities, one for the "flot kort", and the other for routing programs. And in a few years we will see what the developers have reached an we can decide for the better solution. It's always worth to look over the borders and to find out how other countries do. The Netherlands are a bicycle nation, too. They don't have a problem with the "tegne-metoden", neither do the other European countries I looked at. Have a nice week-end! |
39554848 | пре око 9 година | "I agree that many cycleways in the eastern part of Sønderjylland are quite inconsequently mapped and have been for years. Initially (and for a long time actually) I was quite unsure what to do about them, so I just left them there."
"we expect you as a foreigner to respect danish custom"
So: What is Danish custom? It's impossible for me to find out. And your word is not enough.
You say: "Also if you think you need all cycletracks to appear on "normal" maps I think you need to change your tools, not the data." How can I change the tools that are used by other people to create a map, that I want to download? You're talking nonsense! There is no possibility to show cycleways in OSM-maps except to map them as separate ways. It's a pity, but with mappers like you, I would call them "self-crowned kings" in Germany, improvements will be blocked for many years. A bit more of self-criticism would do you good |
39554848 | пре око 9 година | I don't think that this is the right way to talk with each other. Looking at Sönderjylland I found a lot of mistakes at one road with cycleways on both sides: partly marked with separate cycleways, partly just with a tag "cycleway=track", then cycleways completely missing, although they are there. You should be glad, that someone else is correcting the South-Denmark-map.
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14705186 | пре више од 9 година | I can't. I just created the "green" inside the roundabout (air survey). The wall was added later |
33366135 | пре више од 9 година | Und wenn es nichts zu ändern gegeben hätte, hätte ich auch nichts geändert, Schlaumeier. Dass nationale Radfernwege vorher falsch drin waren, hatte ja wohl weiter keinen interessiert ... |
33366135 | пре више од 9 година | Leider kann ich mit derlei kryptischen Andeutungen gar nichts anfangen! |
33572531 | пре скоро 10 година | So, I can't see any difference between us! I prefer cycleway as well. But I add, when I know that there is a sign bicycle=designated. |
33572531 | пре скоро 10 година | look here: osm.wiki/DE:Tag:highway%3Dcycleway but osm.wiki/DE:Tag:highway%3Dpath
in translation: the preferred tag for cycleways is highway=path and bicycle=designated, but only a way smaller than 2 m is "path", ways wider than 2m should be "track". But highway=track and bicycle=designated is not shown as cycleway in the maps. Another (German?) problem is: There are "benutzungspflichtige Radwege" (cycleways that have to be used) and "andere Radwege" (other cycleways), that look like cycleways (color, pictogram) but have no blue sign. The latter CAN be used (bicycle=yes) So I usually tag highway=cycleway when the way is wider than 2m and surface=asphalt or paved and add bicycle=designated and foot= designated. The advantage is: If someone changes cycleway into path, the other informations can still be used. How should I do in Denmark? |
33013537 | пре скоро 10 година | Thanks. When adding the road/cycleway to the route I looked for "760". This number is also part of the name of the border. I thought, that I had corrected all mistakes. Shit happens, even when it shouldn't. |