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39558194 over 9 years ago

You pretend here that you delete a duplicate place but basically what you did was to change Marchmont into Bruntsfield (why? because it's Marchmont) and deleted the previous Bruntsfield.

Please engage with the local community before doing such an edit. It's much easier to have a community discussion first then to act rather than the contrary.

I'm going to revert both of your edits here.

39558293 over 9 years ago

Could you please give us a source for the name of this neighbourhood? Thanks.

39558326 over 9 years ago

St Leonard's isn't a suburb. The previous tagging was correct so I'm reverting once again this edit.

To be honest, I feel a bit guilty to revert it but please engage and discuss with others first before creating your own map. OSM is a common map based on a community who tries to improve together a common good.

Thanks for your understanding.

Eric

39558664 over 9 years ago

Hi again,

Mayfield was already mapped as a locality here (osm.org/node/35878096). If you think that Mayfield is a suburb, once again please engage a discussion with the local OSM community via a note or an email. Thanks.

I'm going to delete your edit here to avoid any duplication with Mayfield. Sorry about that.

Could you also write in your comment what your edit is about and now just "tidy up" as it'd help other mappers to understand the nature of your changes.

Eric

39559397 over 9 years ago

Hi, thanks for your contributions. It'd be good to know why you deleted this suburb as it appears to exist, mainly if you're a local as I'm.

So just to let you know that I'm going to revert your edit.

Then if you really want to delete it please add a note to the map or write a message on the OSM-Scotland mailing list to engage and discuss with the local OSM community.

Cheers,
Eric

39070996 over 9 years ago

No (I just asked them directly). So I changed the name as it was previously

39081465 over 9 years ago

Thanks for your contribution. As this coffee was already mapped (Wee Coffee Bar -- node/2103111398), I'm going to remove the amenity you just created.

38834838 over 9 years ago

The wall you tagged as King's Wall is apparently not the King's wall according to archaeological studies. This Wall was along what is now St Mary's street. That's why there was no name for this wall.

38768958 over 9 years ago

Hi all, from my point of view, the residential areas should be used only to map the areas without buildings at the moment, as decided collectively a year and a half ago at an Edinburgh pub meeting (so a local decision to try finding a local OSM standard for Edinburgh). I fully agree that it would be great to write down the approach chosen in Edinburgh on the OSM wiki. In the next few weeks, we (with my colleagues) will improve the tags of the buildings to be consistent through the city (to remove the maximum of building=yes).
BTW, it's always possible to recreate programmatically these residential areas (some code will be created very soon any way to extract OSM datasets in order to add them in the City of Edinburgh open data portal, under the OSM organisation, among other things). All these activities will be fully transparent. The main idea is indeed to write about it on the OSM wiki, on the OSM Talk-Scotland mailing list, and to invite any one to contribute in an open discussion to find some agreements and to have some road maps for the future of OSM in Edinburgh (including the completion of the map in term of extension, the maintenance, the addition of other information such as the 3D elements or other, etc.). More information about it soon.

38477546 over 9 years ago

Fixed in osm.org/changeset/38502216
(including other features -- roads, railways and boundaries)

37671024 over 9 years ago

Hi, thanks for your answer. Rather than reverting your entire edit, I retrieved these neighbourhoods from the OSM history using the overpass turbo api and re-added them to the map (osm.org/changeset/37704841).
A revert process would have been easier here and clearer as well as it would have kept the history (versioning) of these objects. But because most of the time, your edits are made on a very large area, a revert can't be achieved. To help the local OSM community, would you mind in your future edits, to focus on small areas (even if you have to do more edits/uploads) and use comments which describe more precisely what your edits are about.
But once again, thanks very much for your contributions and hope to see you next Tuesday at the pub meeting at 7pm at the Guildford Arms.
Best. Eric

37671024 over 9 years ago

In this edit, you deleted 4 polygons which represented 4 different neighbourhoods -- Ravelston (way 256067287), Drum Brae (way 256067261), Clerwood (way 256067252) and Carrick Knowe (way 256067249) -- and decided to keep and to update the 4 nodes representing these places. Even if the polygons weren't mapped perfectly (each mapper has its own conception of the limits of a neighbourhood), they were at least giving a spatial idea of the extent of these neighbourhoods (which nodes can't give), which is quite useful. You may also consider here that some OSM contributors spent some time in the past mapping them. So in this context, why did you decide to delete them on your own? As Andy Townsend (SomeoneElse), on behalf of OpenStreetMap's Data Working Group, mentioned to you the other day, "OSM is a collaborative community, and we have to work together to create the best map. Sometimes there's no problem - we can just add unmapped stuff. However, when changing the status of something existing it can be tricky - different points of view may need to be discussed". So please really consider discussing further changes of this kind on the talk-scotland (https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-scotland/) or talk-gb OSM mailing lists. Otherwise, other OSM contributors can be discouraged to see that all their efforts have been reduced to nothing by another person who just deleted their edits. By the way, you're more than welcome to the next OSM pub meeting in Edinburgh which will be next Tuesday at 7pm as indicated here (osm.wiki/Edinburgh#Upcoming_Pub_Meetings).

But in any case, thanks a lot for your contributions and edits, and please be in touch.

37524422 over 9 years ago

@meadowgreen: thanks for your edit, @andy: thanks for your advice

37524422 over 9 years ago

Leith was a town until 1920 but it isn't anymore. It is now part of Edinburgh. So why did you change its status from "suburb" to "town"? Do you agree to revert this change. Thanks.

37125561 over 9 years ago

Thanks for your answer and hope to see you at the next meeting. Cheers

37125561 over 9 years ago

Yes, you're right but but at the same time it's very difficult to create the "perfect" default legend which can match with the expectations of all the OSM users (cf. the long and numerous discussions which happened last October when the OSM default renderer has been updated), and the existing one is a good compromise from my point of view.

To answer your last question, it would be possible with the current renderer but the problem is the denomination of such a space/place. At least two options are possible to define this kind of areas:
- to create an OSM "place" (osm.wiki/Key:place) but with a new value which would be between "plot" and "city_block",
- use a Relation with the type "site" but this type of relation isn't yet considered in the current renderer. I'll try to propose soon an improvement which could take it into account.

Do you agree that I edit your previous edits to take into account your improvements and when it's the case to correct your mistakes (otherwise some street names aren't searchable anymore) ?

Finally, the advantage with OSM is that it's a database so you can search for a place even if its name doesn't appear on the map, (same thing with a A-Z street index) and you can create a new renderer which would display all the names if you wish.

If you want to discuss about some OSM aspects, please join us at the OSM Edinburgh pub meeting next month (osm.wiki/Edinburgh#Upcoming_Pub_Meetings). A date will be proposed soon.

37229537 over 9 years ago

This is Laurel Terrace (http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/directory_record/669817/laurel_terrace) and not Violet Terrace (http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/directory_record/671992/violet_terrace).

This split is incorrect.

37125561 over 9 years ago

This part of the road is Comiston Road (official sources: http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/directory_record/668134/comiston_road and http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/directory_record/669207/greenbank_terrace) and both sides are Greenbank Terrace. I edited this road to reflect it less than a month ago by adding the tags name:left/name:right to indicate that it's also Greenbank Terrace. So the information was here, maybe not display as you wish with the default map renderer but at least the OSM database is correct.

Here you simply removed the fact that this road is Comiston Road.

Please, let me know what you think about it. Thanks.

37268380 over 9 years ago

Hi John, did you do any survey here? Because this Society moved to the Atria One (144 Morrison Street) last December (http://www.lawscot.org.uk/news/2015/05/law-society-announces-move-to-atria-one-in-edinburgh/)?

37284731 over 9 years ago

Hi John. You recently did different edits to improve the quality of the map. These modifications do not match with the OSM specifications because you added the street name as the name of a building or you modified a street name using both names, which isn't correct in both cases. I recently improved many roads to add their alternative/right/left names so if people want to search for this address, they can do it. If you don't mind, I'm going to revert your changes and to update the roads instead to reflect your improvements. Just let me know what you think about it. Thanks.