I fear that the next overloaded key will be man_made. It seems like everything is going into that group these tags: street_cabinet, (water_)tap

Some things like windmill or watermill belong under building IMHO. It’s pretty hard to tag a windmill that is no longer used for its original purpose, but as a house. Same problem for water towers

Meer informatie over de huidige manier van taggen vind je op http://osm.be/nl/content/mapping-public-transport-belgium

Very nice idea to highlight little known but useful tags. The area were I live is so flat I probably won’t need this one soon :-)

@Warin61:

Re Voting: maybe most people on the tagging mailing list don’t care enough for a water tap tag ? Maybe the discussion was only about having a consistent scheme and not about the feature itself.

I wonder how many people read the wiki pages. Especially when your mother-tongue is not English. Nevertheless, when 1 of the tags for mapping water taps would be documented and would mention all other tags that are in use, it might become the de-facto standard.

But when will people use 1 tag for water taps ? When iD and JOSM use the same preset. IMHO, you should not underestimate the power to push a tagging scheme by the build-in presets of those editors. So when you want your tag to be used, do not get involved in a voting process, sneak it in in the presets of the editors. :-)

Google tarafından İngilizce çeviri:

Ben bu tür soruları sormak için en iyi yerdir emin değilim. Eğer İngilizce anlamak, http://help.openstreetmap.org kullanın lütfen Aksi takdirde, diğer Turkisch mappers ile iletişim kurmak için kullanabileceğiniz bir posta listesi veya forum yoktur

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr ?

— Original English text — I’m not sure this is the best place to ask such questions. In case you understand English, please use http://help.openstreetmap.org Otherwise, isn’t there a mailing list or forum that you can use to communicate with other Turkisch mappers

Warin61, thanks for sharing some problems of the Australian community. Of course the size of your country causes different problems compared to small Belgium.

Probably the quality of a good import is the same as those of surveys. My main critique regarding imports is that sometimes obvious wrong data is imported. Some of those imports have a manual verification step, but that is sometimes rushed, so non-existing buildings are imported or house numbers are placed in the dunes. That something you won’t see with surveys.

Impressive, but why did you use a multipolygon ? Can’t this be achieved with individual area’s or even just lines representing the hedges ?

I see similar problems with “oldtimers”, especially those that are not active on fora or mailing lists. Also, An oldtimer can be a newbie when she/he starts mapping new types of objects. So it would be good to review all changes, not necessarily those of new users. But that’s what we are already doing all the time without the sandbox, not ?

See also some reactions to osm.org/user/escada/diary/28071

Is one of the links on http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/94386/bringing-gis-data-into-minecraft of any use to you ?

That’s a nice job. No doubt about that.

But I have some problem with those complete lists. Streets are added, get another layout, etc. all the time. Such a static table is outdated before you know. IMHO it gives a bad impression for new mappers. They might think nothing has to be done anymore.

Furthermore, just names and the street layout is not “completed for car navigation. What about turn restrictions, one way street, lanes, turn lanes, directions. A modern car navigation needs all of that.

I hope that this does not sound to harsh. I really think it is a nice job that you did, however, it is never finished.

My pleasure, I love to read about other mappers, so I enjoy doing this.

I fear that some people will just put any data at that spot in order to cash the money. So you will need a team of reviewers to verify the data.

There is this OSM-game Kort, in which you only earn the money after the data has been reviewed by X other mappers.

Thanks for your comment tmcw.

Changeset comments can be great, but I recently witnessed a case where several people started commenting on the same change. And while each individual comment might be friendly, just the amount of comments might be intimidating as well. (the ally with your friends case)

From time to time you see this request for comment made by people, either on a mailing list, the help-website or a forum. Of course the change is already made in such a case.

It’s my impression that the experienced mappers are in general friendlier towards people that say “hey I made this change, can you check it?”. So offering this functionality from within the editor would be really nice. Still the question remains, who are the “experts” ? What in case of different opinions of tagging something ?

@Zverik: I hope it has some effect for your community. @Joost: The idea of a review is certainly worthwhile to investigate. For me such a review should be done by someone that speaks the same language as the submitter, moreover, it should be someone that is as local as possible (same town, if not, same province, if not same country). This might pose some problems for small communities. Where do you find the volunteers that want to review changesets in detail ?

How do you become part of those “experts” ? I’ve got some advice in the past from self-proclaimed experts that turned out to be not so good. Not everybody with hundreds of changesets is an expert, or an expert in all fields.

You also want to avoid that a bully reviews those changesets.

Looking forward to see a first proposal from you. I rather spend more time on mapping than writing guidelines, proposals, etc. :-)

Sorry in English: OpenStreetMap is for current data, historical data goes in e.g. http://www.openhistoricalmap.org

Look here: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/memorial:type#values and here: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/memorial#values for alternative values to tag memorials.

Traducción automática: OpenStreetMap es para los datos actuales, los datos históricos va en ejemplo http://www.openhistoricalmap.org

Mira aquí: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/memorial:type#values y aquí: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/memorial#values para valores alternativos etiquetar memoriales.

Hallo JBacc1,

What I try to communicate is not whether the editor should warn about everything, but that the community should try to act in a friendly way towards newcomers every time again, just because the editors do no prevent one from making mistakes.

Note that JOSM will not warn you that you did not place a bicycle=use_sidepath on the main road, or redirected the relations over the cyclepath. It might catch more stuff than iD. I don’t know, I hardly ever used iD. I started with JOSM from day one.

Thanks Richard.

Seems like a good idea, but private messages between “friends” should remain possible.

Nice to see you enjoyed your first real mapping experience

Thanks, TheDutchMan13

Tag info has 11 entries for garden:type=community (http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/garden%3Atype#values). If the areas are clearly separated, you might tag each individual area, e.g. garden:type=allotment or landuse=orchard

I think you are right and that garden:style=rosarium would be better than garden=rose_garden. The latter was suggested by a mapper that I contacted before starting.

I’m not good at writing documentation, so I don’t know how to add something useful to the flowerbed proposal.