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New MapRoulette Challenge: Ways Needing Smoothing
Δημοσιεύτηκε από τον/την mvexel στις 18 Μάρτιος 2014 στα English.Those first few MapRoulette challenges did not keep you busy very long: most tasks in the Zorro / Tangled / Wrong One Ways challenges were fixed within the first few days. Dang! We were not prepared for that and had to take MapRoulette down for a little while because there was nothing to do…
But now we’re back! This time with Ways Needing Smoothing. We detect ways that have suspiciously sharp angles and ask you to smoothen them out. Here’s a great example:
Opening this task up in JOSM reveals that there’s more to fix than just the one sharp angle that was detected:
This is typical for the US TIGER data - poorly aligned ways that are either under- or overnoded. And there’s still a lot of them! We detected over 100,000 cases, not all of which are loaded for this challenge yet.
This challenge is bound to have some more tasks than usual that are not ‘real’ errors - that is the nature of challenges of this type. Just skip over them and mark them as ‘not an error’. They will not show up again.
Oh and finally - a cool new little feature is the permalink: you can now link to any task you encounter and want to discuss or share. The link for this one is http://maproulette.org/#t=ways_needing_smoothing/527470359108565095470769424325999623764196595999
Happy mapping :)
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Σχόλιο από τον/την RoadLessTravelled στις 19 Μάρτιος 2014 στις 00:22
Ay ay ay… I just spent some time going through some of these smoothing challenges… some of them are really bad! And they just seem never ending. What’s really interesting is that most of them seem to be pretty much the same errors again and again: a small road curving between two larger roads at a sharp angle… three nodes on a larger node bumping outwards where a smaller road meets etc.
Σχόλιο από τον/την mvexel στις 19 Μάρτιος 2014 στις 23:43
They are almost never ending….I only loaded the first ~6000 of them, around 90000 more to go after that…
Σχόλιο από τον/την Rps333 στις 21 Μάρτιος 2014 στις 22:36
Great way to kill time. Spent a few hour on it, while I waited for my plane.
Cheers
Σχόλιο από τον/την hobbesvsboyle στις 24 Μάρτιος 2014 στις 13:55
Nice challenge. I noticed that there are a lot of false-positives with highway off- and on-ramps. Maybe it would make sense to filter those out for the remaining 90000?
Σχόλιο από τον/την hobbesvsboyle στις 24 Μάρτιος 2014 στις 15:30
Another observation: Some of the ways I came across had 5 or more changes in the last few days, presumably all related to the roulette. How many times does a task get assigned before it is marked as fixed?
Σχόλιο από τον/την Stalfur στις 31 Μάρτιος 2014 στις 13:26
Very interesting. How would I go about in creating MapRoulette challenges for a totally different area? Specifically thinking of my Mapping Botswana project here…
Σχόλιο από τον/την mvexel στις 31 Μάρτιος 2014 στις 18:05
hobbesvboyle: The tasks need only one person to say it’s fixed (or not an error) for them not to appear again. The reason you are seeing what seems to be the same task twice is that the logic that detects these sharp angles sometimes operates on parts of ways, so one way that has multiple sharp angles may appear twice. Also, folks often choose to load a bigger area once they fixed the error, as it’s often obvious that there’s more things to be fixed. In the process, they may be fixing what are separate tasks in MapRoulette :)
Stalfur: I am writing up a challenge creation guide. I will post a diary entry when that is done.
Σχόλιο από τον/την Katie U στις 18 Απρίλιος 2014 στις 14:40
Is there a recommended frequency of nodes on ways? I just marked as not an error a way that seemed to have nodes every 5 feet. The effect was a very smooth sinuous mountain road.
Σχόλιο από τον/την hobbesvsboyle στις 18 Απρίλιος 2014 στις 19:36
@Katie U: I’ve encountered lots of those in MA where they seem to come from an import. I usually simplify those ways (NOT using JOSM’s default setting, as its way too coarse) and then manually confirm that things look good. Usually I have to add in a few nodes again.
Σχόλιο από τον/την mvexel στις 18 Απρίλιος 2014 στις 19:49
Katie: there’s no strict rules! As many as you think makes it look decent. Be sure however that you are zoomed in far enough to really see the road well on the aerial image. (You should be able to see the markings on the road, and cars, if there are any.) I would also suggest that that it’s not necessary to put any additional nodes on straight parts of the way, as those do not add any useful information.
Σχόλιο από τον/την hobbesvsboyle στις 28 Απρίλιος 2014 στις 20:18
Are we all done with the challenges or is maproulette broken at the moment? I can’t get it to load any further tasks.
Σχόλιο από τον/την rickmastfan67 στις 29 Απρίλιος 2014 στις 09:41
Yes, I’m having major problems with maproulette right now too. I’ve been lucky to load only a few challenges over the last ~3 days. The initial challenge loads, and then I can’t get the next one to work, even if I fix the one that did load or even mark it as it wasn’t a mistake (if it really was a mistake of course).
Σχόλιο από τον/την mvexel στις 10 Μάιος 2014 στις 15:36
Sorry for the intermittent problems, folks! I hope everything works well again now.
We actually added a new feature, more about that in a new diary entry soon. It’s already live on MapRoulette.org - can you find it? :)
Σχόλιο από τον/την rickmastfan67 στις 5 Ιούνιος 2014 στις 08:59
I think I know what that feature is Martijn. hehe. I will not post what I think it is here (so not to spoil your future diary post about it if I’m correct), but I did just shoot you a PM with my guess if you want to tell me if I’m right or wrong. ;)
Σχόλιο από τον/την Harry Wood στις 22 Ιούλιος 2014 στις 14:35
Clicking through some of these today, it seems the majority of them are already fixed and already re-rendered as better smoother curves. Seems like this maproulette challenge needs a data refresh?
Σχόλιο από τον/την mvexel στις 22 Ιούλιος 2014 στις 15:16
It does, Harry, and I apologize! There is something going on either on the challenge provider’s end or on MapRoulette’s end and my mission for today is to figure out what it is!