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New MapRoulette Challenge: Ways Needing Smoothing

mvexel님이 English로 2014년 3월 18일에 게시함.

Those first few MapRoulette challenges did not keep you busy very long: most tasks in the Zorro / Tangled / Wrong One Ways challenges were fixed within the first few days. Dang! We were not prepared for that and had to take MapRoulette down for a little while because there was nothing to do…

But now we’re back! This time with Ways Needing Smoothing. We detect ways that have suspiciously sharp angles and ask you to smoothen them out. Here’s a great example:

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Opening this task up in JOSM reveals that there’s more to fix than just the one sharp angle that was detected:

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This is typical for the US TIGER data - poorly aligned ways that are either under- or overnoded. And there’s still a lot of them! We detected over 100,000 cases, not all of which are loaded for this challenge yet.

This challenge is bound to have some more tasks than usual that are not ‘real’ errors - that is the nature of challenges of this type. Just skip over them and mark them as ‘not an error’. They will not show up again.

Oh and finally - a cool new little feature is the permalink: you can now link to any task you encounter and want to discuss or share. The link for this one is http://maproulette.org/#t=ways_needing_smoothing/527470359108565095470769424325999623764196595999

Happy mapping :)

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2014년 3월 19일 00:22RoadLessTravelled님의 의견

Ay ay ay… I just spent some time going through some of these smoothing challenges… some of them are really bad! And they just seem never ending. What’s really interesting is that most of them seem to be pretty much the same errors again and again: a small road curving between two larger roads at a sharp angle… three nodes on a larger node bumping outwards where a smaller road meets etc.

2014년 3월 19일 23:43mvexel님의 의견

They are almost never ending….I only loaded the first ~6000 of them, around 90000 more to go after that…

2014년 3월 21일 22:36Rps333님의 의견

Great way to kill time. Spent a few hour on it, while I waited for my plane.

Cheers

2014년 3월 24일 13:55hobbesvsboyle님의 의견

Nice challenge. I noticed that there are a lot of false-positives with highway off- and on-ramps. Maybe it would make sense to filter those out for the remaining 90000?

2014년 3월 24일 15:30hobbesvsboyle님의 의견

Another observation: Some of the ways I came across had 5 or more changes in the last few days, presumably all related to the roulette. How many times does a task get assigned before it is marked as fixed?

2014년 3월 31일 13:26Stalfur님의 의견

Very interesting. How would I go about in creating MapRoulette challenges for a totally different area? Specifically thinking of my Mapping Botswana project here…

2014년 3월 31일 18:05mvexel님의 의견

hobbesvboyle: The tasks need only one person to say it’s fixed (or not an error) for them not to appear again. The reason you are seeing what seems to be the same task twice is that the logic that detects these sharp angles sometimes operates on parts of ways, so one way that has multiple sharp angles may appear twice. Also, folks often choose to load a bigger area once they fixed the error, as it’s often obvious that there’s more things to be fixed. In the process, they may be fixing what are separate tasks in MapRoulette :)

Stalfur: I am writing up a challenge creation guide. I will post a diary entry when that is done.

2014년 4월 18일 14:40Katie U님의 의견

Is there a recommended frequency of nodes on ways? I just marked as not an error a way that seemed to have nodes every 5 feet. The effect was a very smooth sinuous mountain road.

2014년 4월 18일 19:36hobbesvsboyle님의 의견

@Katie U: I’ve encountered lots of those in MA where they seem to come from an import. I usually simplify those ways (NOT using JOSM’s default setting, as its way too coarse) and then manually confirm that things look good. Usually I have to add in a few nodes again.

2014년 4월 18일 19:49mvexel님의 의견

Katie: there’s no strict rules! As many as you think makes it look decent. Be sure however that you are zoomed in far enough to really see the road well on the aerial image. (You should be able to see the markings on the road, and cars, if there are any.) I would also suggest that that it’s not necessary to put any additional nodes on straight parts of the way, as those do not add any useful information.

2014년 4월 28일 20:18hobbesvsboyle님의 의견

Are we all done with the challenges or is maproulette broken at the moment? I can’t get it to load any further tasks.

2014년 4월 29일 09:41rickmastfan67님의 의견

Yes, I’m having major problems with maproulette right now too. I’ve been lucky to load only a few challenges over the last ~3 days. The initial challenge loads, and then I can’t get the next one to work, even if I fix the one that did load or even mark it as it wasn’t a mistake (if it really was a mistake of course).

2014년 5월 10일 15:36mvexel님의 의견

Sorry for the intermittent problems, folks! I hope everything works well again now.

We actually added a new feature, more about that in a new diary entry soon. It’s already live on MapRoulette.org - can you find it? :)

2014년 6월 5일 08:59rickmastfan67님의 의견

I think I know what that feature is Martijn. hehe. I will not post what I think it is here (so not to spoil your future diary post about it if I’m correct), but I did just shoot you a PM with my guess if you want to tell me if I’m right or wrong. ;)

2014년 7월 22일 14:35Harry Wood님의 의견

Clicking through some of these today, it seems the majority of them are already fixed and already re-rendered as better smoother curves. Seems like this maproulette challenge needs a data refresh?

2014년 7월 22일 15:16mvexel님의 의견

It does, Harry, and I apologize! There is something going on either on the challenge provider’s end or on MapRoulette’s end and my mission for today is to figure out what it is!

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