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How about primary-source maps?

Posted by seav on 28 April 2009 in English.

I find this OSM diary entry and comment thread about map and geocoded photo copyrights interesting. This brings me to the particular situation of primary-source publicity maps, i.e., maps of places made by the people who own/manage the place.

Let's say you were surveying on the ground a large public zoo, and you happen to come across a "you are here" map somewhere there. Is is wrong to get your bearings by looking at the map or even comparing the map with your own to find out areas you have missed? While it's copyright infringement to take a photo of the map and distribute it (since the artistic and creative elements of that map is definitely under copyright), using the map as a source of facts, not creative expression should be ok.

Isn't looking at that "you are here" map which was created by the zoo owners for publicity purposes a form of on-the-ground surveying? Aren't street signs a textual form of "you are here" as well? Take note that we are all going into a really fuzzy gray area here.

For an even more fuzzier example, take the case of Japan addresses (see this Wikipedia article). In most dense urban areas of Japan, most highway=unclassified/residential roads are unnamed and places are addressed by using a building-number (gō), then block-number (banchi), then area-number (chōme) system. You can often find maps of the buildings per block so that you can locate a particular building in a particular block. These maps function in the same way as street signs do in Western countries. I've been to Tokyo and I've used these maps to locate buildings.

So, is it so wrong to use those building maps as a source of facts and information, especially when you're surveying them on-the-ground, the same way you use street signs to collect street names and access restrictions?

Did some armchair mapping for Muntinlupa

Posted by seav on 10 April 2009 in English.

A large part of Barangay Cupang in Muntinlupa City, Metro Manila has been empty for quite some time now, so I went ahead and mapped all the remaining exclusive gated communities in that area—but only the road topology and landuse areas, no street names yet.

I also did and experimented using boundary relations for the first time by drawing then grouping the boundaries for barangays Ayala Alabang, Alabang, Cupang, and Buli. I got the information about the barangay boundaries from the website of the City Planning & Development Office of Muntinlupa City. It was fun guessing where the boundaries actually are based from the map provided in the website (which is apparently not drawn to scale); it seems the boundaries follow the rivers and creeks as much as possible.

That's quite enough mapping for me for the rest of the week. I have to go and take care of my other responsibilities now. :-)

Location: Alabang Hills Village, Muntinlupa District 2, Muntinlupa, Southern Manila District, Metro Manila, 1789, Philippines

Driving around Bonifacio Global City

Posted by seav on 24 March 2009 in English.

As I said in other places on the Web, Bonifacio Global City is the area in Metro Manila that has seen the most drastic changes in development. Roads are pretty much reconfigured every now and then and new buildings are being put up since several years ago.

So, I drove around the area for almost one and a half-hours before going to work and writing down building names, new roads, and other notable stuff on a piece of paper (first time I ever did that despite having been an OSMer since 2007!). I also left my GPS phone in tracking mode and I'll be uploading the trace later for future use. After work, I set about updating as much data as I can and I'll be continuing the work in the weekend.

Location: Fort Bonifacio, Taguig District 2, Taguig, Southern Manila District, Metro Manila, 1635, Philippines

This is my favorite shopping mall in Metro Manila since it doesn't look like a typical Philippine mall. The Yahoo! imagery is woefully out of date for this area so I managed to go around and have a lot of on-the-ground look here (and looking at the you-are-here store directory maps—this is still surveying, right?—to help with getting the building footprints down pat).

It's still unfinished. There's still the matter of mapping the footpaths in and around the Greenbelt Park as well as the various driveways and parking areas, but it's a great start. =)

Location: Greenbelt, District I, Makati, Southern Manila District, Metro Manila, 1228, Philippines

I am now a "classic" OpenStreetMapper

Posted by seav on 22 February 2009 in English.

That is, I am now mapping with the help of GPS traces. :-D I have been contributing since mid-2007 but all of my contributions are based on Yahoo! imagery and personal observation. But now that I am the custodian of a GPS mobile phone (the Sony Ericsson W760, touted as the first GPS-enabled Walkman) I am now able to record GPS traces and I have uploaded a bunch of them concentrated on places where there are new streets not seen in the Yahoo! satellite imagery.

"Proper" mapping via GPS. The first such place that I have mapped with the help of GPS is the Frontera Verde area (map link in this entry). Before, the roads I placed were an approximation, but I'm surprised to say that I've managed to map the major roads almost perfectly even without the help of GPS, save for the L-shaped unnamed street that I had corrected via my GPS trace (which I loaded into Merkaartor and before uploading it to OSM).

Another street that I added with the help of GPS is Palm Coast Avenue near the SM Mall of Asia.

The power of having GPS to do mapping has affected my driving habits. I now try to plan my trips to maximize unmapped areas, go around unmapped roundabouts at least once, and take detours, all of which are best exemplified by this GPS trace. :-P

See full entry

Location: Ortigas East, Pasig First District, Pasig, Eastern Manila District, Metro Manila, Philippines

Refining the SM Mall of Asia (Philippines)

Posted by seav on 1 February 2009 in English.

I've started refining the SM Mall of Asia complex (building upon the initial work done by ianlopez1115). To be specific, I've edited the Main Mall and the North and South Wings such that they now have approximately correct shapes (including the zigzagging edges flanking the two pedestrian streets). I'll continue with the Entertainment Mall to the west sometime this week or the next weekend.

In addition, I've more or less completed mapping the Blue Wave commercial center located about half a kilometer to the east of SM Mall of Asia. I pass by this area almost every workday and I've taken plenty of dinners in a the fast-food restaurants located here so I pretty much know how to tag the area through the help of the Yahoo! satellite imagery.

Location: Barangay 76, Zone 10, District 1, Pasay, Southern Manila District, Metro Manila, Philippines

OSM is far too addicting

Posted by seav on 11 January 2009 in English.

I have a lot of online projects and activities and OSM is getting an inordinately large slice of the pie. Also, whenever I go out, I notice little details that I need to add/update or verify in OSM as soon as I get home. Fixing these details immediately will take up too much time.

As a sort of compromise, I've taken to adding lots of stuff into OpenStreetBugs. I'm making OSB as a sort of to-do list for when I have more leisure time to edit OSM. It's ridiculously easy to add stuff in OSB so it fits my needs appropriately. :-)

OpenStreetMap Routing Service is cool!

Posted by seav on 26 December 2008 in English.

I knew of the OpenStreetMap Routing Service before but it was only recently that I got to play around with it. It's a pretty nifty service and I've been trying out various routes within Metro Manila since I've pretty much driven most major streets in this metropolis and I wanted to cross-validate what I know with the service's algorithm and the OSM data.

As a result of my playing around, I've identified several major errors in the routing-related data in OSM (e.g., one direction of a dual-carriageway trunk bridge had a reversed oneway tag) and isolated a possible routing algorithm issue.

The Routing Service is definitely a must-have tool for verifying the OSM data (Maplint can only do so much). :-)

Trying out Merkaartor

Posted by seav on 20 December 2008 in English. Last updated on 21 December 2008.

After seeing someone using Merkaartor to edit in OSM, I decided to give it a try last night. Before this, I've been exclusively using Potlatch. Potlatch is a pretty good application and is definitely the best Flash application I've ever seen but I quickly ran into one of its limitations while I was doing Eastwood City and Bonifacio High Street (in Metro Manila, Philippines). The limitation is that at the highest zoom level, you cannot place nodes more accurately: the nodes snap to a 3-pixel "grid". This 3-pixel grid translates to a resolution of almost 3 feet at the latitude I'm working at. This is more than good enough for roads, but not adequate for buildings. (I'm kinda OC ["obsessive-compulsive", slang in Philippine English] when mapping the details of buildings, and this limitation prevented me from making nice right angles of small idented corners of buildings. See this view of Bonifacio High Street for an example of non-perpendicular corners. I find this lack of right angles maddening! :-P) I asked Richard, Potlatch's creator, about it and he acknowledged this limitation (our conversation is at the OSM Wiki).

If you're using Potlatch, then Merkaartor gets some getting used to with regards to its interface. The workflow is pretty much the same as in JOSM: you go to an area, download the data, edit at will, then upload the changes. I like it because it doesn't have the aforementioned 3-pixel limitation, and in addition, it blows up the Yahoo! map tiles if they're not available in a higher zoom level; Potlatch just shows Yahoo!'s "We're sorry, the data you have requested is unavailable" tiles. (I'm not sure if Merkaartor's behavior is allowed by Yahoo!'s TOS).

I'll still continue to use Potlatch as a general editing tool since it's pretty quick and I'm used to it. I'll just bring out Merkaartor if ever I want some finely wrought detail. :-)

(This is also cross-posted, with some changes, to the talk-ph mailing list.)

Mapping NAIA

Posted by seav on 1 December 2008 in English.

Went crazy today and fixed as much of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport as I can. I added a helluva lot of taxiways (even the turning points--I'm not sure if I did it as expected--since the white painted lines are easy enough to trace from the Yahoo! satellite imagery), added the refs for the two runways, and refined the shapes of the terminals.

Location: Barangay 183, Zone 20, District 1, Pasay, Southern Manila District, Metro Manila, 1309, Philippines

Mapping Eastwood Mall

Posted by seav on 20 November 2008 in English. Last updated on 4 July 2009.

So Eastwood Mall just opened last weekend and I finally got to see the area between the huge central building (tentatively named One Central Park) and the 1800 and 1880 Eastwood Avenue last Monday after work. I've subsequently refined the building footprints in that area. Since I don't own a GPS unit, the positions and shapes of the new buildings that aren't on the Yahoo! layer are approximate and interpolated from other known buildings.

The updated data should now show up in today's Mapnik update. :-)

Location: Bagumbayan, 3rd District, Quezon City, Eastern Manila District, Metro Manila, 1110, Philippines

I'm currently at the Google DevFest in the University of the Philippines, Diliman, where people from Mountain View and elsewhere are presenting and demo-ing various web-related Google APIs. Pamela Fox of the Google Maps team is currently talking about Google Maps API (and Map Maker, Earth API, etc.).

I talked about Google Map Maker vs. OpenStreetMap before and found Google Map Maker wanting (just like the reaction of many OpenStreetMappers).

Anyway, Pamela Fox hinted that Maps API developers might be able to use Map Maker map tiles as an option instead of the regular Maps map tiles. However, there's no mention yet about the licensing issues of the map tiles and the raw data. I plan to talk to her later regarding this.

(I also want to ask if Google would be inclined to go the way of Yahoo! in letting OSM use the satellite images as well for tracing.)

Today is November 1 (All Saints' Day) and, just like the millions of Catholic Filipinos all over the country, my family went to the cemetery to pay our respect to our dearly departed loved ones (and have a mini-family reunion while we're at it). In this case, it's my paternal grandfather at the Garden of Memories Memorial Park in Taguig City.

And just like any good OSMer, I noted down as many details as I can of the memorial park and the surrounding areas. After I got back home and opened up OSM, I noticed that somebody has outlined the basic shape of the memorial park based on the Yahoo! imagery. Of course, looking at the satellite imagery is just an aid and no substitute for real on-the-ground surveying, so I went ahead and corrected the landuse region to the best of my recollections and added the internal roads and as many of the footpaths as I can remember (and see from the Yahoo! imagery).

I also went ahead and mapped some of the surrounding areas, including the finished main road we took to get to the park (which was still unfinished in Yahoo!'s imagery).

Location: Ususan, Taguig District 1, Taguig, Southern Manila District, Metro Manila, 1639, Philippines

Tweaking Eastwood City

Posted by seav on 17 October 2008 in English.

I believe that OSM has the best online map of Eastwood City (apart from the the static map available at its website). Eastwood City is a mixed-use compact district containing malls, condominiums, and office buildings. Since I go to work here, it's just appropriate that I make this area as complete as possible.

Anyway, I just tweaked several things here based on the last look-around that I did this morning. I finally got the name of the northwestern exit road (Richmond Road), fixed the name of Palm Tree Avenue, and confirmed that a building is actually named Athena Building and not BPO Building. There's still plenty to do here such as putting the building footprint of the finished but still unopened 1880 Eastwood Avenue.

My next area of focus is the Fort Bonifacio Global City. I've already written a diary entry for that area.

Location: Bagumbayan, 3rd District, Quezon City, Eastern Manila District, Metro Manila, 1110, Philippines

I was invited to attend the official launch of the Google Map Maker service in the Philippines last October 7. I blogged about the event in my blog here: http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com/posts/google_map_maker_philippine_launch

The post is quite lengthy and the last part talks about OSM vis-a-vis Map Maker so you guys might be interested in that.

Fixing up Ayala Center Makati

Posted by seav on 11 October 2008 in English.

I didn't really intended to start fixing up the data for Ayala Center Makati. But since I went to the Gold's Gym branch in Glorietta last Friday, I wanted to lay down the information I memorized in OSM as soon as possible.

One thing I noticed ever since I started mapping in OSM is that I became more observant of the roads and buildings that I go to or pass by. I guess I'm an OSM addict that way. Hehehe.

Location: San Lorenzo, District I, Makati, Southern Manila District, Metro Manila, Philippines

Writing on my OSM diary

Posted by seav on 11 October 2008 in English.

I didn't think I would have a use for OSM's built-in diary feature. I have my own personal/tech blog at vaes9 (http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com/) where I have written several pieces about OpenStreetMap. But lately I thought that it would be interesting to write down here the minutiae of my activities while contributing to OpenStreetMap--things that my regular blog audience might find utterly boring. At least here in OSM, I can be assured that people reading the diary would be somewhat interested (at least I hope so!).

So welcome. :-)