I made a diary entry for the whole community to see, so that they know what trolls I have to deal with osm.org/user/slice0/diary

here I am posting dictionary meaning and government sources and all we have here is simply a troll/vandel and someone else defending the troll/vandel lmao. I will be using this changeset comment log if any further issues are brought up. have a nice day

lmao have either of you two even read the wiki, the very first sentence "Use highway=secondary to tag highways which are not part of major routes, but nevertheless form a link in the national route network." that is exactly the definition of the road in question here, far out you guys dont even know what you are arguing for here. you are both saying the wiki is right and everything well I have news for you I agree and going by the wiki it should be secondary. far out I hope the board and dwg member see how pointless this whole argument has been considering the wiki says it should be secondary lmao. I think we need to start posting out uni degrees from now on.

and also just for your own knowledge because you seem to comment a lot when I am involved in a discussion. this road was classed as secondary based on OSM guideline, government sources and definitions and "what is on the ground". fortera decided to use their own interpretation and with out discussion went ahead and changed. I am merely reverting it and saying hey we should talk about it first. why does it feel like i need to defend my actions when I did nothing wrong in the first place.

@kurisbrooks, also your not here to seek to understand anything though are you? you open with a bias statement out of nowhere and now leaving it up to me to prove why fortera is wrong. thankyou for stopping by in the changelog discussion and goodbye

https://www.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/10609/A_Functional_Hierarchy_for_SAs_Land_Transport_Network.pdf https://dit.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/553233/MASTER_SPECIFICATION_-_PART_RD-GM-D1_-_ROAD_DESIGN.pdf

@kurusubrooks, the definition of Secondary/primary and trunk are exactly the same between Data SA and OSM wiki guidelines. Territory roads on the other hand do have a different meaning between Data SA and OSM guidelines. What are you trying to say here?

you just dont understand anything, you are good at manipulation but theres not an educated thought process here. Do you realise our government has given us these sources so we dont have to guess and even have these talks. When the wiki mentions road classifications it does so with the understanding that there is no source available. which is most of europe and africa and large amounts of the US. we are lucky to have this available to us. Using manipulation against me doesnt work mate.

pretty bold statement considering any changes outside of a source would be "one mappers" opinion. you dont seem to trust the word of a mapper as much as I trust a mappers interpretation of a road classification. which is why we use a source. territory roads can be changed accordingly.

thats the biggest flaw with this project, discussions take place everywhere and anywhere its all officially undocumented. people just normally leave things alone and find their own stuff to work on.

you need to understand that the trunk/primary and secondary roads have been discussed with DWG members and the SA OSM community, if you can not agree to leave these roads alone then our DWG member needs to take action against you. You dont get to decide how these roads are classed, we have chosen to use the official government source as the rule. territory roads and the other hand can be interpreted differently because our government uses the collector classification based on bus routes, and that is different to the territory meaning.

this is a quote from the wiki "Secondary highways are generally specified by country road classification bylaws and assigned a ref=reference name."

you have no clue how much work people have put into this map, and you choose to argue with the people who have got it to this point. everything was and has been discussed and thought of.

all the trunk roads, primary roads and secondary roads in south australia are classed based on fact and they comply with OSM guidelines. by changing the class of these roads you are vandalizing the map. these roads are not classes based on anybodys interpretation of the wiki, the are classed based on facts

I have reported this edit to the board and DWG members

just noticed the changes in this changeset, im putting back the secondary roads that were removed please consider a discussion before changing the class of roads.

thankyou

you dont unserstand, by upgrading it to secondary status you are saying that section is built to handle secondary traffic. it has a train track close to a intersection and it goes through a industrial area and it is single lane. it is not designed to handle secondary traffic. maybe territory status would be ok. i=but the intention is not to route secondary traffic through this tiny lane. it would be very dangerous for trucks and bus's , the eastern parade/expressway intersection is designed for heavier use..

your interpretation does not make a difference to facts, unless we just change the wiki to what "fortera_au thinks is right"

I am putting this back to residential, please consider opening a discussion before creating secondary roads as they impact routing significantly