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93683842 over 4 years ago

Probably also interesting : osm.wiki/Talk:Tag:shop%3Dcar#Service_is_not_versatile_enough

93683842 over 4 years ago

That's an interesting thesis : The ID editor admins may simply proceed, causing a bunch of random tags which are not to handle and the info to the mailing list doesn't count ? By the way, here's the proposal : osm.wiki/Proposed_features/shop_subtags

93683842 over 4 years ago

Or in short : "ignorance is not a virtue" https://youtu.be/Pshix63B8AM
This topic is more than 2 years old, here's the 2nd time for it to be mentioned on the mailing list :
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-May/036119.html

93683842 over 4 years ago

Here's the mentioned entry on the shop=car page : osm.wiki/w/index.php?title=Tag:shop%3Dcar&diff=1767933&oldid=1767491#Tags_used_in_combination

93683842 over 4 years ago

The number hasn't increased, but otherwise someone would have complained about removing info. The "service:vehicle" prefix has been introduced (undiscussed) by the ID admins and wasn't clarified unless several times mentioned (and noticed) on the mailing list. This circumstances were mentioned on the shop=car page, but removed by some individuals which seem to want to hold up clarification about that topic.
I assume that "wheels" means "rim", so that's something different to "tyres". I'd appreciate to get this topic further, so feel free to participate on the shop:car page discussion tab (I think "centrally" is better noticed by the majority than here)

86194050 about 5 years ago

Seems so, thanks. Updated it.

86194050 about 5 years ago

The de: is missing, just copied&pasted the wikipedia article's name. Couldn't find Dinkelacker-Schwaben Bräu on wikidata, so this is better than nothing ?

82945303 over 5 years ago

Is there any outcome of this "discussion" yet ? https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-May/036119.html

82945303 over 5 years ago

That would be really nice, but unfortunately it doesn't work like this at all :
"Things have to be discussed to ensure a tagging scheme is logical and usable on the long run".
There should be a general decision about namespace usage instead of this "small nit-picky discussion". Also see the article excerpt here : osm.wiki/User:Rtfm#Structural_problems

83071892 over 5 years ago

Na dann dokumentier das doch so, wie oben vorgeschlagen : shop=farm distinction.
D.h. wann welcher tag zu nehmen ist.

83071892 over 5 years ago

Da steht : "A shop that sells regional, seasonal, freshly harvested goods. It could be also used for a roadside produce stand. Similar inner-city farm shops also exist that specialize in selling products direct from (local/regional) farms." --> worauf willst Du hinaus ?
Wenn ich nach einem Direkterzeuger suche, dann doch eher nach shop=farm. Und mehrere tags für denselben Hofladen macht ja auch keinen Sinn. Wie gesagt ist die Mehrheit eher Direkterzeuger. Also bitte Deine Logik ggf. auf diesen Wiki-Seiten ergänzen. Das bringt nichts, hier "nein-doch-nein" zu spielen.

83071892 over 5 years ago

Ein Beispiel aus o.g. Liste wäre www.hofladen-strasser.de. Klingt mir ziemlich klar nach shop=farm ?

83071892 over 5 years ago

https://www.kleinbrennerei.de/Eine-Uebersicht,QUlEPTY1NDAzOTAmTUlEPTE0OTc.html

83071892 over 5 years ago

https://www.nabu.de/natur-und-landschaft/landnutzung/streuobst/service-und-adressen/14020.html
https://lvwo.landwirtschaft-bw.de/pb/,Lde/Startseite/Fachinformationen/Destillate+von+Kleinbrennereien

83071892 over 5 years ago

Genau das ist öfters der Fall

83071892 over 5 years ago

Man könnte beispielweise shop=farm distinction hinzufügen, es gibt z.B. auch viele Klein-Brennereien (meist als shop=farm). shop=alcohol ist für mich doch eher einer, der ein breiteres Angebot bietet.

83071892 over 5 years ago

Dann dokumentier es bitte auch gleich :
osm.wiki/Tag:shop=alcohol
In diesem Sinne :
"You can use any tags you like, but please document them here on the OpenStreetMap wiki, even if self-explanatory. "
osm.wiki/Any_tags_you_like#Documenting_tags_not_in_Map_Features

82945303 over 5 years ago

"since no end-user application will ever evaluate" : check OsmAnd for example for the motorcycle namespace. OSM discussions take around a decade, there are many "Blockwart" type guys around the wiki to avoid any progress. Which other way to tag this (disabled vehicles) would you recommend ? And which "imaginative tags" are you generally talking about ? Please also check the shop=car page and their history

82705885 over 5 years ago

Du weichst nach wie vor der Frage aus

82705885 over 5 years ago

Du weichst nach wie vor der Frage aus