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how to map usage of university buildings

Vum Sanderd17 matgedeelt de(n) 10. November 2010 op English.

If you look at osm.org/?lat=50.86384&lon=4.67707&zoom=17&layers=M , you see that the university buildings have references. These are mapped as names since these are used on all the signs. But I also want to map the use of the building.

e.g. building B 200 is the mathematics building, A 200 is informatics ...

This doesn't have to appear on the map (it would make the map unreadable anyway) but I like to have it in the database. The only problem is that I can't find an appropriate tag for it. I don't even have enough inspiration to think of a tag myself.

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Bemierkung vum Pink Duck de(n) 10. November 2010 um 13:59 Auer

You could use addr:housename for the taught subject and addr:housenumber for the building identifier, then use the name tag to display the building code by default.

Bemierkung vum Sanderd17 de(n) 10. November 2010 um 14:04 Auer

so e.g.

addr:housename=Departement Wiskunde
addr:housename_en=Department of Mathematics
addr:housenumber=200 B
name=200 B

do you mean this? it looks good to me.

Bemierkung vum EdLoach de(n) 10. November 2010 um 14:14 Auer

Or instead of building=yes, building=mathematics_faculty (or whatever).

Bemierkung vum Sanderd17 de(n) 10. November 2010 um 14:25 Auer

well, at the key:building page in the wiki, they say thee building= is common. I don't think that "mathematics_faculty" is a type of building typology. I prefer to use a tag that doesn't collide with other used tags.

Bemierkung vum Sanderd17 de(n) 10. November 2010 um 14:26 Auer

sorry, html screwed up my post. It's unreadable in that way, I'll reformat it here:

well, at the key:building page in the wiki, they say the building="building_typlology" is common. I don't think that "mathematics_faculty" is a type of building typology. I prefer to use a tag that doesn't collide with other used tags.

Bemierkung vum !i! de(n) 10. November 2010 um 17:05 Auer

Hmm I always thought about a relation to stitch all university buildings together and highlight them in a map style.
osm.wiki/Relations/Proposed/Site

unfortunatly I lack of time :(

Bemierkung vum Minh Nguyen de(n) 10. November 2010 um 18:41 Auer

building=yes
operator=Departement Wiskunde
operator:en=Department of Mathematics

Bemierkung vum SamatJain de(n) 10. November 2010 um 21:17 Auer

> building=yes
>operator=Departement Wiskunde
> operator:en=Department of Mathematics

I feel this is misleading… in universities in the USA, at least, the "operator" of the building is the university, and the department just a tenant.

I like the proposal in the first comment, using addr:housename.

Bemierkung vum compdude de(n) 11. November 2010 um 03:59 Auer

I know this isn't really related to your post but I noticed some areas around the university that are marked with the tag landuse=forest. According to the wiki, this tag should be used only for forests that are managed (ie owned by a logging company). Obviously these forests don't appear to be big enough to be owned by a logging company, so shouldn't they be marked as natural=wood?

Bemierkung vum SamatJain de(n) 11. November 2010 um 05:42 Auer

@compdude: But, a forest on university land *is* managed—by the university.

Bemierkung vum Sanderd17 de(n) 11. November 2010 um 09:55 Auer

so the addr:housename tag it is.

Should I put this on the wiki for other university, school or compagny buildings?

@compdude, I don't know it these are managed. In Belium, every piece of ground is managed by someone, if they had permission to put a building on it, they would. So I guess most woods are forests but I can be wrong.

Bemierkung vum Vclaw de(n) 11. November 2010 um 16:57 Auer

I don't think the "addr:housename" tag (or the "name" tag) is correct for this. Those tags are for the name of the building, which is not necessarily the same as the name of the department based in that building.

I would suggest using a different tag, eg "department", or maybe "operator:department"
Though at the universities I'm familiar with, most buildings are used by several different departments anyway.

Also, if the building has a reference, eg a letter and number, I think that should be tagged as "ref", as its not really a name.

Bemierkung vum Kevin Steinhardt de(n) 11. November 2010 um 18:49 Auer

I would have put the building numbers as ref=* and 'Department of Whatever' as name=Department of Whatever (or name:en=Department of Whatever)

Bemierkung vum Sanderd17 de(n) 12. November 2010 um 09:03 Auer

the name=Department X isn't good. The name should be the word by which everyone calls it (official and non-official sources). In this case the letter A, B ... or the complete ref: 200 A, 200 B...

I'm willing to duplicate that in a ref=... tag, but It's already in the addr:housenumber and in the name tag. so creating an extra ref tag is totally unnecessary.

maybe the addr:housename tag isn't correct. I do find the operator:department good, but there are buildings who have other usages as well. Like computer classes or labs. They don't belong to a department, but do have a name like "PC-classes".

Bemierkung vum marscot de(n) 12. November 2010 um 15:33 Auer

I would use
building=yes
Building:use=School or what ever it is
Building:name=A200 or what ever
building:height=10m
building:roof=
now thats the building done but the building can have more than one address one side could be main street the other back street thats why you should tag a node inside with address details and not on the building tags

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