Hi Daniel, regarding osm.org/node/4564264140 -- this is not a shop, it's a disused restaurant.

Howdy red_clover -- just FYI I already added these Brooklyn Brainery locations as office=skill_share:

osm.org/node/2568710165
osm.org/node/5523676314

I made that tag up, and I think it's decent... If you want to tag these as schools (which certainly makes some sense), go for it. But better to add that tag to the existing nodes rather than create new ones.

Happy mapping, J

Hi again Timothy... in this changeset there are two fast-food amenities that you assigned brand info to:

osm.org/node/5742310959
osm.org/node/5676615651

These are independent establishments, not related to the chain restaurants indicated by the brand tags you added.

There's also another case of a Rite Aid convenience store containing a pharmacy ( osm.org/node/5203205583 ). Its signed name is "Rite Aid Pharmacy" (no Wallgreen's this time.) You've renamed it to just "Rite Aid" and you've changed the enclosing store from a convenience store to a chemist.

I understand that these are suggestions being made by iD's overzealous attempts to "upgrade" map features with brand info, overriding surveyed info. In some cases these are improvements, but this button makes it very easy to add incorrect information to the map. For some features -- banks and accountants, eg -- it's probably pretty safe. For restaurants and fast food, I'd ask you to verify first that the place in question is part of the chain. And I'm obviously not too fond of assumptions that it makes about drug stores and pharmacies!

Sorry for the rant. As usual, please contact or leave a map note if there's something that doesn't make sense or needs a local survey. Thanks, Jason

No prob... I agree it's a little weird but there are several around.

There are also Duane Reade stores with a Wallgreens Pharmacy inside ( eg osm.org/way/617474312 ) but that makes a little more sense because they're owned by the same company.

Please feel free to contact me if there's anything in the future like this that doesn't seem to make sense (or just leave a map note.)

Happy mapping. J

No prob, thanks for writing back! The standard is -- *IF* all roads going through an intersection have to stop there, then using a single highway=stop on the intersection node is fine. Otherwise, we have to put them only on the roads that actually have a stop sign.

I looked at the map editor and it seems to present a choice when you're adding a stop sign, that it should either be a "all-way" stop or a "minor" stop. Unfortunately this confuses the issue, because adding that tag (all-way or minor) doesn't really work. It's the position of the node that matters most:
- A stop can't be "minor" unless it's mapped on the approaching road instead of on the intersection node.
- Likewise, a stop can't be can't be "all-way" unless it is mapped directly on the intersection node. (Technically you could represent an all-way stop by adding a separate stop for each approach instead of a single stop at the intersection, but that's not common.)

Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks for your work & happy mapping, J

FYI I have removed the hotel tags from this building.

Hi -- the website for this real estate business seems to indicate that it's located in Saratoga Springs. What's the source of this address on Chase Road?

I've fixed this in changeset 72863247, see https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/70227/highwaystop-stopminor-on-intersection

Hah, bad link. https://imgur.com/a/IW95EwN

Hi again Timothy. Lacking any response from you I've reverting this error with changeset 72824112.

In case you don't believe me:
https://i.imgur.com/wHZVLudl.jpg

Hi, is this location correct? Just seems to be a deli in this building.

Hi MxxCon, wondering about this stop sign node... There's already a stop sign mapped on the Harden Street side of this intersection ( osm.org/node/5008464548 ) but from street level imagery ( https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=40.621597~-73.93478&lvl=17&dir=50.74&style=x&v=2&sV=1 ) it doesn't appear that there's any stop sign affecting Flatland Avenue.

Are you using different imagery?

Hi NogaDeutsch, welcome to OpenStreetMap and thanks for your edits.

I've reverted this particular changeset because the information you've added is incorrect. I don't know what your source for this information is (in the future please add a "source" field in your changesets or mention the data source in your changeset descriptions) but it's not precise enough to use for mapping. There is a Restoration Hardware store nearby, but the location you used is wrong.

Furthermore, adding a retail landuse is not the correct way to add a store to the map. It should be added as a shop, not a landuse.

I'm happy to advise if you have any questions.
Jmapb

Hi Daniel! Regarding osm.org/way/575640290 , from the Schermerhorn side it looks like this whole building is the Hilton, but the hotel actually only occupies parts of a few floors, with the rest being apartments and other businesses. That's why I mapped it as a node ( osm.org/node/5043356681 ).

Can you give an example?

Development's been pretty crazy in my neighborhood too -- it seemed like for a while I was demolishing little buildings and adding big construction sites every week. But I've never seen any trace of the developers themselves tagging the new buildings on OSM. They're less savy down in Brooklyn I guess.

Many buildings aren't that simple -- there's not necessarily a single "main" address.

Buildings that have only one address should be tagged with that address directly on the building area. Buildings with multiple addresses generally shouldn't get address tags on the building, but rather have their addresses indicated by address nodes placed inside the area (preferably near the entrance in question.) This is the standard implemented during the 2013 NYC building footprint and address import, and mappers here generally follow it.

These things are *not* well documented, so it's not surprising to find other approaches in use. And of course the imported data can be improved by survey. But you've left these buildings without any addresses at all, which isn't ideal.

For now I've restored the deleted address nodes (and the construction site) with changeset 72466673.

Regarding your work on the tunnel, it's great as far as I know. I hadn't noticed that the extra lane was there, and I don't know why it would have been mapped separately. (Maybe it had different restrictions at one point? You might want to discuss it with "rdnaskela23", the mapper who originally added it last year.) But please describe these sorts of major changes to the road network in your changeset comments so your fellow mappers will understand what you're doing and why.

Feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions -- I'm not the most experienced mapper in NYC but I'm one of the more active ones at the moment.

Thanks for your work and happy mapping, J

Hi tylerchill, can you clarify what's happening in this changeset? Seems you deleted a lane from the Queens-Midtown Tunnel -- was there an extra lane mapped separately? I don't remember seeing one so I'm a little confused.

Also you deleted a construction landuse and a lot of address nodes -- I wonder if these may have been deleted by accident while working on the tunnel and LIE?

Thanks, Jason

Hi Timothy! In this changeset you renamed this pharmacy ( osm.org/node/5827855718 ) from "Walgreens Pharmacy" to "Rite Aid" and added various Rite Aid brand tags... presumably because it's inside a Rite Aid store ( osm.org/way/248238776 )?

The pharmacy is, in fact, operated by Walgreens. Its signed name is "Walgreens Pharmacy."

The Rite Aid store containing it is, in fact, a convenience store, not a chemist.

Thanks, Jason

I've done a partial revert in changeset 72271844.

Hi John, thanks for your contributions in NYC!

FYI the standard way of mapping building addresses here is:
- If the building has only one address, tag the building itself with that address.
- If the building has multiple addresses (on different streets or just with different numbers) leave the address tags off of the building and instead add each address to a node located inside the building perimeter.

This is the standard that was adopted during the 2013 building import so we try to stick with this style.

Please let me know if you have any questions!

Happy mapping, Jason