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Peut-on taguer une route highway=trunk alors qu’elle est accessible aux véhicules lents. Ce cas existe assez fréquemment en France.

Is it possible to tag a road highway=trunk event it is accessible to slow vehicles. This case exists in France :

Si je me réfère à la page du wiki, aucune notion de vitesse minimum n’est imposée pour taguer une route en trunk.

If I look at the wiki page, there is no speed notion about tagging an highway as trunk.

Y-a T-il une page du wiki sur ce sujet ? Is there a wiki page about this case?

Tous vos commentaires sont les bienvenus. All comments are welcome.

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2012년 7월 4일 09:41ab_fab님의 의견

Bonjour zewan,

Je n’ai pas de réponse définitive sur la question.

Chose amusante, c’est un sujet débattu assez activement sur la liste de discussion française dans le fil suivant, avec justement pour certains messages la question de l’accès aux véhicules lents : http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-fr/2012-July/045012.html

Tu es bien évidemment le bienvenu pour intégrer le débat !

2012년 7월 4일 12:04paulbiv님의 의견

UK has plenty of trunk roads with no minimum speed.

There are many with two lanes and no divider (particularly in remote areas).

There may be some single-lane roads designated Trunk (correctly, following Government rules) in Scotland.

2012년 7월 5일 08:23zewan님의 의견

@ab_fab Je viens de lire la liste de discussion. Je constate que c’est un sujet qui soulève de nombreux problèmes. Je pense que s’il existait un rendu spécifique “primary 4 voies” distinct des primary et des trunk, comme sur les cartes Michelin par exemple, cela règlerait le problème.

2012년 7월 5일 10:40Sanderd17님의 의견

In Belgium, trunk is used for “route pour automobiles”. There is no minimum speed, but it’s not allowed for slow traffic (pedestrians, bicycles, agriculture vehicles …). It’s also not allowed to stop, unless necessary.

But this is in Belgium, it’s best to discuss this matter in France, and document it on the wiki.

osm.wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Highways

2012년 7월 5일 13:15Pieren님의 의견

We already have documented “trunk” in France. The problem is that some (very few) roads look like “voie express” but are not legally. They have the same maxspeed (110) and size (2x2 carriageways) but are not forbiden for slow vehicles. Then comes the question : is it a “trunk” or a “primary” ? Then come the question “what are the features of a trunk” ? For me, the maxspeed=110 and 2x2 carriageways are the main features for trunk where others think that access restriction to slow vehicles is the most important.

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